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Exploring both the practical realities and the exciting alternative realities that can be unleashed through cloud driven transformation and cloud native living and working.  

Each episode, our hosts Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to cloud leaders and practitioners to understand how previously untapped business value can be released, how to deal with the challenges and risks that come with bold ventures and how does human experience factor into all of this?

They cover smart industry, customer experience, sustainability, Gen AI and data, cyber, cost, leadership, talent and of course, tech.

Together, Dave and Sjoukje have over 70 years of cloud and transformation experience and act as our guides though a new reality each week.

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Episode 67 | Dec 2023

CR045:  How Cloud Native and Open Source come together to drive value with Massimo Ferrari, RedHat

Open source and Cloud Native thinking and approaches can be very synergistic and drive value for organisations, but both are still not well understood today.

This week, Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk to Massimo Ferrari, Distinguished Product manager, Red Hat about open source philosophy, misunderstandings about open source that still exist, what Cloud Native actually is and question if these two approaches can come together to drive faster value.  We then talk about how GenAI can power Cloud transformation.

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  • 01:00 The technology singularity
  • 06:11 Cloud conversation with Massimo Ferrari
  • 35:24 How GenAI and Cloud compliment each other
  • 43:50 Festive trip around London!

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Episode 66 | Dec 2023

CRLIVE21: AWS re:Invent 2023: The green revolution in tech with Rahul Sareen, AWS

We are live from AWS re:Invent 2023 in Las Vegas, direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to AWS leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Rahul Sareen, Global Head Sustainability Solutions and GTM, AWS about AWS’s evolving approach to sustainability

The gang also do a final round up of themes, highlights and best swag to wrap up this years re:Invent 2023 series.

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Episode 65 | Dec 2023

CRLIVE20: AWS re:Invent 2023: Guardians and future of trusted cloud with Max Peterson and Gary Meshell, AWS with Anne Saunders, Capgemini

We are live from AWS re:Invent 2023 in Las Vegas, direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to AWS leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

In this weeks second double feature, we are looking at Sovereignty & Cyber, we focus on how AWS Cloud is responding to two of the biggest challenges today.  Dave, Sjoukje and Rob dig into this in two separate sessions with:

Max Peterson, VP sovereign cloud, AWS about the importance of recognising sovereignty, how AWS frame the requirement and the response.

Gary Meshell, MD Global GSI cybersecurity program & Anne Saunders, Global Cybersecurity Director, Capgemini about the growing threat and sophistication of Cyber in an evermore complex world.

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We are live from AWS re:Invent 2023 in Las Vegas, direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to AWS leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Jeff Barr, VP & Chief Evangelist, AWS, about his early days at AWS, the evolution of re:Invent itself, the three major compute paradigms over the last 60 years, how Cloud and AI fit into that and how to equip the next generation.  We also hear about Jeff’s family all being at re:Invent for the first time together this year.

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We are live from AWS re:Invent 2023 in Las Vegas, direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to AWS leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

In this double feature looking at ‘Industry Cloud’, we focus on the impact of the Cloud in two sectors.  Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to:

Keith Mulder, Partner Strategy Leader, AWS Automotive & Manufacturing, about disruption in the Automotive sector, including connected car, the energy transition and changing customer expectations and buying habits.

Melissa Dougherty, Director Partner Success for Global Financial Services, AWS about disruption in the Financial Services sector, including state of legacy and legacy modernisation.

Finally, we get an update on Robs search for a mouse and have some alarming news about the Cloud Realities monkey!

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We are live from AWS re:Invent 2023 in Las Vegas, direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to AWS leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Tanuja Randery, VP EMEA, AWS, about the opportunities and challenges in leading across such a diverse region, her top 3 themes across EMEA from her many discussions with organisations, her passion for promoting women in leadership and tech, GenAI adoption at scale and Cirque du Soleil!

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We are live from AWS re:Invent 2023 in Las Vegas, direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to AWS leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Rohan Karmarkar, Director GSI Solutions Architecture, AWS, about two immediate themes of the conference (1) modernise to both go faster and save money (2) Amazon Q.  We talk about how these innovations impact the Customer conversation with AWS, a good customer example and catch up on what else has been announced at the show.  Finally, we have a chat about our preferred steaks and answer the most important question… sauce or no sauce?

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The Cynefin Framework sets out different lenses through which circumstances can be made sense of, from ‘clear’ through to ‘chaos’!  As we have covered on previous episodes of the show (CR020 & CR003), it is very useful for helping frame and understand the shift to “digital”.

This week, Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk to Rob England and Cherry Vu, who are Teal Unicorn and explore new ways of management, about the relevance of the Cynefin Framework in their work with organisations, the builds Rob and Cherry have made on it (with Dave Snowden!), and what results they have seen.  We also talk about ways to drive additional value from the Cloud.

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  • 01:00 Anti-Compentative UK probe into Cloud Service Providers
  • 04:40 Cloud conversation with Rob England and Cherry Vu
  • 44:13 Three actions to unlock greater Cloud Value
  • 51:50 Celebrating Robs 21st birthday and a Corporate Rebels write up!

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Technology democratisation is the process of reorienting technology tools to require less specialized knowledge to use and drive value.  This can happen at organisational or societal level, and lead to more rapid application and radically increased innovation.

This week, Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk to Nabil Bukhari, CTO and CPO at Extreme Networks and a regular contributor to Forbes, about how he became so inspired by tech democratisation, why it is important for society to have equal access to tech and what the implications and advantages are for your organisation.  Finally, we talk about successful innovation tactics for leaders.

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  • 01:13 Next gen smart glasses
  • 02:30 Cloud conversation with Nabil Bukhari
  • 33:35 8 tactics for leaders to successfully innovate
  • 42:22 Talk at a CIO conf in the Valley! 

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In a first technology convergence, physics came together with engineering to produce an array of astonishing new technologies: radios, telephones, televisions, aircraft, radar, nuclear power, computers, the Internet and a host of still evolving digital tools.  Today we are on the cusp of a new convergence…

This week, Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Susan Hockfield, President Emerita, MIT about how biology is now coming together with engineering to create a wave of next generation technologies.  They talk about the evolution of this new technology, exciting initial use cases and the challenges of industrialising these new machines.  We also talk about how LLM’s might also learn the language of biology and drive further breakthroughs.

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  • 01:47 Will virtual realities ever really be a reality?
  • 05:29 Cloud conversation with Susan Hockfield
  • 44:30 Biology and LLM’s
  • 48:28 MIT Energy Initiative external advisor conference!

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GenAI use cases emerge everyday, however they tend to be quite discreet currently, to unlock its potential at scale we are likely to see platforms and significant organisational change emerge at an unprecedented speed over the next year.

In a special live episode from London at Microsoft Envision The Tour in October 2023, Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to a panel led by John Cairney, Head of Digital Strategy and Architecture, Scottish Water with Giles Walker, CTO Retail and Consumer Packaged Goods, Microsoft and Steven Webb, CTIO UK, Capgemini about what good AI experimentation and use cases look like, what Scottish Water are doing to pilot GenAI at scale, in particular their experiences with Co-Pilot, along with what the scale organisational implications of GenAI might be and looking to the future, if and when AI transformation might ultimately tackle process centric enterprise apps such as ERP. 

TLDR:

  • 00:44 What Dave, Sjoukje & Rob did in London
  • 03:00 Cloud conversation with John Cairney, Giles Walker, and Steven Webb
  • 46:50 Outro

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Automation in software development is a way to minimise errors during the software development process, make it faster and more cost-efficient, and improve team collaboration and productivity.  Highly effective development teams dedicate their best staff to this task, believing it will unlock new levels of developer productivity and creativity.

This week, Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Ramiro Berrelleza, Founder and CEO at Okteto, a company that modernises the development experience, about the core idea and founding of Okteto, why developer automation has high value attached to it, whether business leadership are engaging with it as route to value and, it wouldnt be a show without it, what disruption AI is already having on software development.

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  • 00:55 Is the lack of necessity the mother of invention?
  • 03:50 Cloud conversation with Ramiro Berrelleza
  • 31:15 How AI can transform software engineering
  • 37:00 The week to be over and Peruvian food!

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The logistics and distribution industry has undergone huge disruption in the age of e-commerce and particularly since the pandemic, driven by the huge rise in home shopping and expectations of customers. 

This week, Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Alex Lorke, Director of Product Engineering, Royal Mail, about the long and storied history of the Royal Mail, an organisation that dates back 500 years, the current set of challenges driven by the market and how digital is helping the group move from interacting with the postbox to interacting with individuals all the way through the delivery supply chain.  Then, of course, we talk about how AI can help and where drones might fit in.

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  • 00:50 Is crypto-currency really a thing?
  • 02:30 Cloud conversation with Alex Lorke
  • 28:47 AI on logistics and operations
  • 33:35 Jumps and ariels on hydrofoils!

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Digital transformation in the retail sector helps create a more personalized and fluid shopping experience for customers.  This allows retailers to customise their offerings based on customer preferences and behaviour.  However, getting to that, with a sizeable legacy estate, remains a challenge.

This week, Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Sylvain Geron, Directeur Digital France & Infra Europe at Carrefour, about the transformation of Carrefour into digital retail company.  A challenge that includes ensuring digital is at the centre of thinking around the customer and operation, dealing with legacy whilst modernising the store, the supply chain and supplier relationships, and the rhythms of cultural change that have to be aligned to transform end to end.  We also take a look at what GenAI is bringing to the world of Retail.

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  • 01:15 Do we always want the latest gadget?
  • 03:20 Cloud conversation with Sylvain Geron
  • 27:00 What can GenAI bring to Retail?
  • 33:00 A half marathon and a golf competition in the same weekend!

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Organisations are now responding to not just delivering the next wave of transformation, followed by a steady state execution period, but more a continued series of market and societal pressures, requiring almost continuous large scale responses.

This week, Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Patrick Oestreich, Chief Commercial Officer, Hellman Worldwide Logisitics, about how to reshape your organisations and make them more adaptable in this context.  We examine the pressures on Global logistics, pre and post-pandemic, gain insights into the board room conversation of an organisation which is learning to be adaptable and cover the 5 essential steps to build an adaptable business culture.

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  • 00:55 How does the internet work?
  • 02:30 Cloud conversation with Patrick Oestreich
  • 34:30 5 essential steps to build an adaptable business culture
  • 41:10 Becoming an Electro-Head and strat-ecution!

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Organisations are now responding to not just delivering the next wave of transformation, followed by a steady state execution period, but more a continued series of market and societal pressures, requiring almost continuous large scale responses.

This week, Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Patrick Oestreich, Chief Commercial Officer, Hellman Worldwide Logisitics, about how to reshape your organisations and make them more adaptable in this context.  We examine the pressures on Global logistics, pre and post-pandemic, gain insights into the board room conversation of an organisation which is learning to be adaptable and cover the 5 essential steps to build an adaptable business culture.

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  • 00:55 How does the internet work?
  • 02:30 Cloud conversation with Patrick Oestreich
  • 34:30 5 essential steps to build an adaptable business culture
  • 41:10 Becoming an Electro-Head and strat-ecution!

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The role of the CIO is changing, but so are many other CxO roles in the face of digital disruption.  If anything, this is likely to accelerate in the coming years.

This week, Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Jed Griffiths, CDO, Microsoft UK, about why this role change is occurring, why its important that it is considered to be wider than the much discussed CIO role evolution and the three key things that modern leadership teams should be wrestling with today, in the face of accelerated transformational change.  Also, do ‘Five trends for CIOs’ from early in 2023 still resonate?

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  • 00:50 Are smart watches worth it?
  • 03:00 Cloud conversation with Jed Griffiths
  • 31:10 5 trends CIO’s were advised to consider in 2023
  • 38:00 Spending more time on Starfield!

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GenAI continues to dominate the conversation and more use cases emerge everyday.  AI itself though, is not new, companies have been exploiting it for a number of years, building it into their product sets and understanding how their customers get value from it.

In a special live episode from Edinburgh in September 2023, Dave and Rob talk to a panel led by Ahmed Salhin, Principal Data Scientist at Sage and including Fiona Sweeney, Partnerships Director, Women in Data, Theo Priestly, Futurist & Robert Engels, CTO AI I&D Capgemini about Sage’s long term use of AI in their products and how it differentiates them.  We then speak to the panel about the risk of cognitive overload as organisations potentially take on another wave of related transformation and the ever critical data integrity.

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  • 00:50 What Dave and Rob did in Edinburgh
  • 03:56 Cloud conversation with Ahmed Salhin, Fiona Sweeny, Theo Priestly & Robert Engels
  • 23:32 Outro

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The need to execute change in your organisation, either as proactive transformation or reactive to your market, has never been more demanding.  This is the real ‘new normal’.  How we frame and handle this, as humans, can make the difference between success and failure in the delivery of value from change and, importantly, in ensuring our good mental health.

In a special episode to kick off season 3, Dave, Sjoukje and Rob go on a journey with Erwin Visser, General Manager for Cloud Service Provider business at Microsoft Americas and career IT professional about his recent adventure climbing Mount Everest!  They discover what this visceral experience has taught him about setting purpose and going on the journey and we unpack his 5 lessons for driving results from change as we climb…

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  • 04:05 T&C’s are confusing!
  • 06:03 Cloud conversation with Erwin Visser
  • 44:35 Clear purpose and benefit drives change
  • 50:41 Moving to Tampa!

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We are live from Google Cloud Next 2023, direct from the Expo floor with a limited series of episodes talking to Google leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

Dave & Rob talk to Chen Goldberg, VP & GM of Google Kubernetes and Serverless, Google Cloud, about what “cloud native” really means, the tech and the ways of working, along with the first hand story of K8S over the last 10 years.  The gang are then joined by some friends to reflect on a busy conference week, the highlights and themes and whether we got our predictions right!

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We are live from Google Cloud Next 2023, direct from the Expo floor with a limited series of episodes talking to Google leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

Dave & Rob talk to Mahin Samadani, Director of Strategic Business Transformation, Google Cloud about experience led cloud transformation, how to measure ‘return on imagination’ and how starting with the user experience can drive better business value and outcomes. Rob also updates us on Day 2 themes, including cloud integration, productivity boost through better org design and how we must continue to challenge our assumptions, even when we have been successful!

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We are live from Google Cloud Next 2023, direct from the Expo floor with a limited series of episodes talking to Google leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

Dave & Rob talk to Zac Maufe, Head of Financial Services Industry Solutions, Google Cloud about cloud in the heavily regulated financial sector and what Google Cloud is doing to help organisations accelerate and safely drive value from data.  Rob also updates on todays themes at the conference and the gang reflect on the conference tag line “The New Way to Cloud”.

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We are live from Google Cloud Next 2023, direct from the Expo floor with a limited series of episodes talking to Google leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

Dave & Rob talk to Jose Gomes, Managing Director Retail & Consumer, Google Cloud about disruption and trends in the Retail sector, how AI in Retail should be delivered thru platform, rather than driving after unique, non-scalable use cases and how this helps respond to an incredibly fast moving market.  Rob also updates on the big themes from the Google opening keynote session.

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We are live from Google Cloud Next 2023, direct from the Expo floor with a limited series of episodes talking to Google leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

Dave & Rob talk to Rodrigo Rocha, Director Global Horizontal Partnerships, Google Cloud to understand Google Clouds positioning of GenAI as a central and visible theme of the conference.  They discuss whether AI can help make flying smoother or even find life on other planets, as well as about the role we all have in bringing AI into society responsibly.

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Dave, Rob & Sjoukje reflect on the incredible journey through the first two seasons with the most thrilling topics and guests who supported our show. They also share what they are excited about doing over the summer and the thrilling highlights of what’s in store for season 3!   

Thank you to all our listeners for joining us in Seasons 1 & 2 – have a great summer and we will see you in late August!

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  • 00:01 Intros
  • 00:03 Rise of AI
  • 00:08 Quantum Computing
  • 00:12 Living in a simulation
  • 00:15 The human side of transformation
  • 00:19 Diversity
  • 00:24 The new era of tech
  • 00:33 What will season 3 bring
  • 00:35 Summer and what are you doing next
  • 00:40 Outro

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It should be a no brainer that more diverse teams deliver better and more customer appropriate outcomes and solutions.  The significance of this is very much demonstrated in the realm of data – a space where ensuring that no bias is introduced into the data set is critical!

Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk to Roisin McCarthy, Founder at Women in Data® about the founding and mission of Women in Data®, the underlying systemic issues that need to be addressed, the frustrations of not making progress quickly enough and the benefits of diversity in the workplace.

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  • 00:30 Intros
  • 01:00 Cloud conversation with Rick Houlihan
  • 04:00  Modernising your data infrastructure
  • 18:00  Leveraging lessons learnt!

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It should be a no brainer that more diverse teams deliver better and more customer appropriate outcomes and solutions.  The significance of this is very much demonstrated in the realm of data – a space where ensuring that no bias is introduced into the data set is critical!

Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk to Roisin McCarthy, Founder at Women in Data® about the founding and mission of Women in Data®, the underlying systemic issues that need to be addressed, the frustrations of not making progress quickly enough and the benefits of diversity in the workplace.

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  • 00:55 Intros
  • 02:02 Cloud conversation with Roisin McCarthy
  • 32:16  5 hard benefits of a diverse workplace
  • 40:49  WiD Conference exclusive!

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The automotive industry is going through a period of unparalleled disruption.  How people want to buy cars, the experience of using one and how a car is powered are all under going massive transformational change.

Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk to James Speer, Global Partner Development Manager – Automotive and Manufacturing, AWS about the disruption in the automotive industry, the electrification race and the connected car – is it more of a software platform than “car” today and will it deliver the experiences the films and TV shows of yesteryear promised us?

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  • 00:49 Intros
  • 01:23 Cloud conversation with James Speer
  • 30:18 3 tech trends for the automotive industry   
  • 36:25 Getting back to Old Trafford! 

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Fashion is an industry where customer experience is critical, it has to represent your brand values very accurately.  Additionally, the experience is becoming more and more complex as it needs to deliver “phygital” high quality and consistent omni-channel experiences.

Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk to Manyana Schmitz, Director Digital Optimization and Transformation at PVH, a fashion company in Europe that owns Tommy Hilfiger and Calvin Klein, about the changing nature of customer expectations, the impact the pandemic had on buying habits, what the digital response to under pinning a fast moving and complex B2C experience and Manyana shares some personal reflections on her leadership journey.

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  • 00:55 Intros
  • 02:02 Cloud conversation with Manyana Schmitz
  • 32:16  The Top Five Retail Technology Trends In 2023 
  • 40:49 Annual reunion with friends!

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Much like any new technology release, AI is currently going through its hype-cycle, meaning, that for all of the noise and conversation happening, there is currently a lot of experimentation, rather than Enterprise scale implementation. 

Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk to Christopher Wells, VP R&D, Indico Data and host of the Unstructured Unlocked podcast, about where we are on the AI hype-cycle, what the world could look like on the other side of wide scale implementation and what form(s) Enterprise scale implementation of AI may take. We also talk about the hardest and the least talked about aspect of successful and safe use of AI: preparing and managing the data infrastructure.

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  • 00:55 Intros
  • 02:02 Cloud conversation with Christopher Wells
  • 32:16 The AI Data Lifecycle
  • 40:49 Playing keyboards in a Gospel band!

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Alongside the huge potential advantages AI will bring, there are implications to its usage that we need to take seriously, right from the outset.  Security and privacy are critical, not only to ensure the safe use of AI in coming years, both in society and commercially, but also how do we prevent AI from being abused or creating new Cyber attack surfaces?

Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk to Bill Reid, Security Advisor, Office of the CISO, Google about how you protect against AI Cyber threat, whether old techniques can be used, what the considerations for the training data set are, how AI further complexes the software supply chain and the right types of AI governance.

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  • 00:59 Intros
  • 02:09 Cloud conversation with Bill Reid
  • 24:08 Types of GenAI and some case studies
  • 31:23 Using AI to make security leaders lives easier!

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Quantum is coming. Over the next 10 years Quantum computers will become more stable, powerful and mainstream, with a different approach to processing, they unlock the potential to solve some of the worlds biggest problems.

Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk to Alexander Del Toro Barba, Quantum & AI Practice Lead, and Catherine Vollgraff Heidweiller, Quantum AI Product Manager, about what makes Quantum so different from Classical computing, the challenges in developing stable and scaled Quantum computers, what will be the first industries to benefit and how will Quantum potential interact with the rise of AI over a similar period?!

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  • 01:02 Intros
  • 01:54 Cloud conversation with Alexander & Catherine 
  • 26:52 What does commercial Quantum actually mean?
  • 30:20 The next major hardware milestone & summer is coming!   

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The speed at which businesses need to change to keep pace with ever-accelerating innovation continues to increase.  Leaders today need to deal with this while balancing the shock of the change on customers and staff and the challenges of legacy modernisation.

Live from SPARK, a CxO Forum in Paris, Dave talks to a CxO panel, including:

  • Kemal Cetin, Global Chief Information Officer at FrieslandCampina
  • Sylvain Géron, CTO of Carrefour France
  • Patrick Oestreich, Chief Commercial Officer and Executive Board Member at Hellman

They explore the nature of tech-driven change, discuss the ambitions for change in their organisations, delve into what they believe lies at the heart of driving change quickly, and emphasise the importance of leadership recognising the need to change before their organisations can fully transform.

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  • 01:00 Intros
  • 01:50 Cloud conversation with
  • 29:53 Questions from the audience
  • 34:38 Board meetings, school graduation, popes AI advisor and listening to this podcast!

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Being a data-driven organisation means culturally treating data as a strategic asset and then building capabilities to put that asset to use not just for big decisions but also for everyday action on the frontline. 

In this second of a two part mini-series looking at becoming a data driven organisation, Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk to Mark Jones, Head of Engineering for Data & Analytics at Reach plc, a British newspaper, magazine and digital publisher, about data governance and management, the move to data products and how that drives more value from your data.  In this weeks trend we talk about why, when the benefits are often so clear, becoming a data driven transformation is so hard!

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  • 01:02 Intros
  • 01:36 Cloud conversation with Mark Jones
  • 28:19 Why Becoming a Data-Driven Organization Is So Hard
  • 37:07 LLM’s!

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Being a data-driven organisation means culturally treating data as a strategic asset and then building capabilities to put that asset to use not just for big decisions but also for everyday action on the frontline.  It can deliver huge additional business value as well as drive your customer experience, but it requires significant effort to fully achieve.

Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk with Wessel In Der Rieden, Director Data and Information at Burberry, about what being a data driven organisation means, how to unlock critical data from legacy and COTS applications, data productisation and solving for one of the most critical issues in data transformation: data ownership and driving to consistent single views.

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  • 00:53 Intros
  • 01:23 Cloud conversation with Wes In Der Rieden
  • 29:24 How to establish a data driven culture change
  • 38:07 The new dawn of enterprise applications!

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LEGO is one of the world’s best-loved and most familiar brands, adored by generations of children (and podcast hosts and listeners).  What is less well known, perhaps, is its journey over the last 20 years which has required significant innovation.  Granted unprecedented access to every part of the LEGO Group, David Robertson, for his book ‘Brick by Brick’, not only charted each twist in the company’s story but analyses the nature of the challenges and how they were overcome.  The lessons he distills from such an epic journey can be used to inform leadership decision making, digital transformations and innovation strategies today.

Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk with David (MIT Sloane School of Management & Horton School at University of Pennsylvania & author of ‘Enterprise Architecture as Strategy’, ‘Brick by Brick’ and ‘The Power of Little Ideas’) about his work with LEGO and how his findings helps drive and govern innovation.  How do you think not only “outside the box” but also “around the box” and how does the Business Model Canvas help with categorising and organising around innovation?  We begin and end the conversation with the advantages and disadvantages of using Enterprise Architecture…

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  • 00:45 Intros
  • 02:03 Cloud conversation with David Robertson
  • 37:00 Is there a role of Enterprise Architecture in an Agile world?
  • 45:16 New book looking at the next phase of the LEGO journey!

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Quantum is coming.  A new generation of computers with the potential to change life on Earth, including fixing the M25 problem!

Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk with James Cruise, Head of Quantum Algorithms at Cambridge Consultants, about what Quantum actually is, how it differs from ‘classical’ computing, how it might be applied and the current state of Quantum development.

Finally, in this weeks Trend, we talk about how Quantum might be applied to solve not just business problems, but some of the larger problems of the human race and planet.

TLDR:

  • 00:53 Intros
  • 01:31 Cloud conversation with James Cruise
  • 21:25 Quantum applications
  • 28:30 Dealing with (quantum) errors in fun and interesting ways!
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With the economic conditions in 2023 calling for great attention to be paid to costs, along with cloud hitting a point of adoption maturity, FinOps is central to the cloud conversation right now.  Whilst Cloud should not predominantly be seen as cost saving exercise, there are often opportunities and even if cost saving is not top priority, ensuring your Cloud footprint is optimised is always critical.

In this special LIVE episode from a FinOps event, sponsored by Apptio & Capgemini in London on 26 April 2023, Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk with Alison McIntyre, UK Ambassador for the FinOps Foundation, about the work of the FinOps foundation, the evolution of FinOps as a discipline, the importance of consumption forecasting and why that is different to a financial forecast.

Finally, in place of this weeks trend, we take some audience questions and amongst other things, talk about the link between FinOps and sustainability.

TLDR:

  • 00:37 Intros
  • 02:30 Cloud conversation with Alison McIntyre
  • 34:15  Audience questions
  • 40:50 Safari!

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Conversations around the short and long term risks and potentially significant unintended consequences of AI are increasing in volume.  This has culminated recently in a controversial open letter, coordinated by Future of Life institute, from hundreds of leading figures in this space, including Elon Musk, asking for development and AI learning to be paused, until it is better understood.  “Advanced AI could represent a profound change in the history of life on Earth, and should be planned for and managed with commensurate care and resources,” the letter says. “Unfortunately, this level of planning and management is not happening, even though recent months have seen AI labs locked in an out-of-control race to develop and deploy ever more powerful digital minds that no one – not even their creators – can understand, predict, or reliably control.”

Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk with Futurist Theo Preistley about the risks of AI already manifesting in society, what additional features and automations are coming, which potentially add more risk, and what can could and should be done at this point to ensure we bring AI into our lives responsibly.

Finally, in this weeks Trend, we talk about what organisations should do to prep for AI, and that fact that they still have time to act now to get the right arrangements in place.

TLDR:

  • 01:15 Intros
  • 02:08 Cloud conversation with Theo Preistley
  • 38:25 What should organisations do to prep for AI?
  • 45:27 The Evil Dead Rise and rewatch Picard!

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Digital organizations work in new ways that require us all to adapt and develop new skills and framing and making sense of the world.  How to tackle this is one of the more difficult challenges requiring addressing in a digital transformation.

Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk with Micheal Hamman, Teacher and Coach, about different styles of organisation and about how our beliefs can impact how we act.  He also talks about the over emphasis on the engineering mindset, how we need to consider the human technologies and how all of our “human operating systems” may require some new apps.

Finally, in this weeks Trend, we talk about skills that modern leaders need to adopt and what can we learn from each other.

TLDR:

01:14 Intros
02:02 Cloud conversation with Micheal Hamman
24:05 Three skills every modern leader needs
33:19 Vertical Facilitation!

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Digitalisation in an inherently complex activity, with unknowns being very high and experimentation required on an ongoing basis – there is no ‘once and done’.  The changes in leadership framing, decision making and ways of working required are hugely under estimated in discussions and planning of ‘transformation’ and failure to engage with that could risk your success.

Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk with Dave Snowden, Director and Founder of the Cynefin Centre about his work on making sense of complexity, they discuss Dave’s seminal work, the Cynefin Framework, how he has subsequently built on that thinking and how you apply that it in the digitalisation process of your organisation. His insights are not to be missed.

Finally, in this weeks Trend, we set out some perceived wisdom of what is required in digital leadership and see what stacks up.

TLDR:

  • 00:43 Intros
  • 01:21 Cloud conversation with Dave Snowden
  • 24:53 Six Tips For CEOs for Leading Digital Transformations 
  • 40:31 Wainwright walks!

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AI usability and adoption continues to rapidly accelerate in 2023, but it is important to understand the risks to your business from mis-using AI and best practices for evaluating the right AI tools for the right jobs.

Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk with Michelle Zhou, Founder and CEO of Juji, about her history and take on the progression of AI over the last 20 years, why democratisation of AI is both increases the safety and precision of AI, as well as likely driving the right and best human experiences.  Also, how do you nurture your AI?!

Finally, in this weeks Trend, we deep dive on democratised AI by looking at no code AI.

TLDR:

  • 01:00 Intros
  • 02:26 Cloud conversation with Michelle Zhou
  • 32:18 No-Code AI
  • 41:54 AI Conference!
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Platform engineering is a core part of modern digital operating models.  The discipline has been developing over the last 10 years and provides underlying safe, secure and optimised platforms, essential for creative and customer centric innovation.

Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk with Jennifer Riggins, Tech Culture Author about what good platform engineering looks like, why conditions today could lead to good platform engineering practices, how platforms help organisations innovate and deal with technical complexity, how it leads to strong DevOps implementation and how it helps deal with a major issue in tech today, developer cognitive overload.

TLDR:

  • 00:54 Intros
  • 02:16 Cloud conversation with Jennifer Riggins
  • 22:24 Platform engineering in 2023 – doing more with less 
  • 32:19 SPRING AT LAST!
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Legacy modernisation is one of the most difficult, and often misunderstood, elements of digital transformation.  It can be expensive and very disruptive.  It has more in common with business transformation than cloud migration and can lend itself to risky large scale implementations.

Dave, Sjoukje & Rob are joined by John Kodumal, CTO and Co-Founder of LaunchDarkly, they talk about how greenfield development is increasingly rare, evolving a running system is much more common.  New method and tools are now available to move this past a static or quarterly update, risk heavy process, such as feature management which allows legacy to be modernised with zero outage and switch over risk.

In this weeks trend we talk about the emerging field of developer productivity, why it can be helpful, but its also very difficult to do effectively.

TLDR:

  • 00:50 Intros
  • 01:30 Cloud conversation with John Kodumal
  • 21:30 Developer Productivity
  • 29:42 Scaling People by Claire Hughes Johnson (book recommendation)!

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“Digital transformation” a phrase that has been used for years, often thought to be overused and perhaps hollow, maybe coming of age.  This week we look into this phrase and what its meant over the years, but also try to understand what’s changed to make it more material.

Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk with Jeff DeVerter, Tech Evangelist from Rackspace about what has made this real in 2023 and what is different organisationally, culturally and technically in a “digitally transformed” organisation.  Also, they try to understand the difference between digitisation and digitalisation, how this may change professions and how this type of transformation can help us become more customer relevant.

Finally, in this weeks Trend, we talk about cloud enabled digital transformation and how cloud fits in.

TLDR:

  • 01:24 Intros
  • 02:19 Cloud conversation with Jeff Daverter
  • 22:30 Why Cloud is key in enabling digital transformation 
  • 31:40 Going for a nap!
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TelCo is a Sector where Cloud based software defined networks are driving customer expectations combined with potentially providing huge operational efficiencies.  Telcos are increasingly moving their networks to the cloud, recognizing the significant advantages this can provide – 31% of global network capacity is being serviced by cloud today, and this is expected to increase to 46% in the next 3 to 5 years.

Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk with Geoff Hollingworth, CMO of Rakuten Symphony about their experience as a Cloud Native Telco, and what we can learn by looking at what is possible on the other side of cloud transformation.  The team explore what a telco cloud transformation is (is it different from cloud transformation in other sectors?), the operational differences between a Cloud Native and traditional Telco and cloud transformation progress and nuances in the sector

Finally, in this weeks Trend, we talk about the FinOps Foundation and the misconception of FinOps being just about saving money.

TLDR:

  • 00:52 Intros
  • 02:07 Cloud conversation with Geoff Hollingworth
  • 35:30 The FinOps Foundation
  • 39:51 Getting some sleep!

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Each year Capgemini publishes TechnoVision – a comprehensive prediction of the year to come, along with useful principles that guided both its prediction and use.  It seeks to bring some fresh thinking to the technology business issues of today.  In this special two part episode Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk in detail with the reports leader Ron Tolido and get a special insight into the creation of the work.

In this special second episode, the team explore the mindset at the heart of Technovision 2023, helpful to understand the implications of the trends from pt.1, but critical in how you put them to practical use!  They walk through the design principles (Every Business is a Tech Business, Do good, do less, do well, With Open Arms, IQ/EQ/CQ, Trust Thrust and No Hands on Deck) and discuss how they come together to paint a picture of a modern digital business.

Finally, in this weeks Trend, we talk about how code itself can be written to ensure the best and most green performance of your products and platforms.

TLDR:

  • 01:23 Intros
  • 01:51 Cloud conversation with Ron Tolido
  • 30:31 The rise of green application development & modernisation
  • 37:48 Re-writing my emails in the style of Earnest Hemmingway!

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Each year Capgemini publishes TechnoVision – a comprehensive prediction of the year to come, along with useful principles that guide both its prediction and use.  It seeks to bring some fresh thinking to the technology business issues of today.  In this special two part episode Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk in detail with the reports leader Ron Tolido and get a special insight into the creation of Technovision 2023!

In this special first episode, the team explore why Scarcity, Sustainability and Uncertainty have influenced so much of the thinking, what impact this has and then walk through the 5 trends at the centre of the report: Invisible Infostructure, Applications Unleashed, Thriving on Data, Process on the Fly and You Experience/We Collaborate.

Finally, in this weeks Trend, we talk about how Microsoft and Google are both racing to bring chatGPT supported product to market.

TLDR:

  • 01:25 Intros
  • 02:00 Cloud conversation with Ron Tolido
  • 45:04 Microsoft and Googles move to incorporate chatGPT into their tooling
  • 51:09 Surf rock with robots!
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Artificial intelligence seems to be being talked about everywhere this year, but is really being leveraged as much as that suggests, and do we really understand what it is, its limitations and its dangers?

Dave, Sjoukje & Rob are joined by Tom Godden, Director of Enterprise Strategy at AWS about the uptake of AI, Machine Learning and Deep Learning in businesses today.  They also set out some definitions and how each of the technologies can be effectively used.  Finally, they talk about some real case studies, including pizza cooking and delivery optimisation, a subject close to all of our hearts.

TLDR:

  • 01:43 Intros
  • 03:01 Cloud conversation with Tom Godden
  • 32:10 Five predications for AI in 2023
  • 40:30 Next level technology futures presentations at AWS 2023 events!
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Modern ways of working require significant engagement from everyone involved to ensure the right things are getting done and the right time and the levels of creativity are sustained for innovation.  How do we get the balance right?

Dave, Sjoukje & Rob are joined by Duena Blomstrom, CEO of PeopleNotTech, author and influencer to discuss what drives a teams performance is it process, technology, method, or does it come down to things that are actually far more human?  The team discuss why Psychological Safety remains a critical element in driving outcomes from modern teams and get an insight into Duenas thinking on “Human Debt”. Finally, the team discuss the other elements that make up modern high performing teams.

TLDR:

  • 00:38 Intros
  • 00:52 Cloud conversation with Duena Blomstrom
  • 27:00 What makes up High Performing Teams
  • 31:30 I just want to sleep ’till 05:30!

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Cloud is maturing in its ability to deal with complex, highly secure & regulated environments, and there are very few more complex environments than the Defence sector.

Dave & Sjoukje are joined by Gareth Hetheridge, CIO from Leonardo to talk about the challenges of unlocking the value of cloud in Defence, whilst maintaining a very high standard of security.  They go on to discuss the components of Leonardos exciting and fast moving digital transformation programme.  Finally, the team talk about how economic conditions are beginning to impact the tech industry.

This conversation was recored in November 2022 (with a heavy cold!)

TLDR:

  • 01:07 Intros
  • 01:27 Cloud conversation with Gareth Hetheridge
  • 26:03 Tech feels economic headwinds
  • 28:41  The weekend with the boys!
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Dave, Sjoukje & Rob are joined by Robin Sutara, Field CTO at Databricks to discuss the reality of data usage today.  They talk about he characteristics of organisations that have successfully created a data transformation to rethink how business gets done, supply chains in a de-globalising world, the importance of clarity of outcome and data delivery team diversity.

The team also talk about the incredible launch, potential and concerns around ChatGPT.

TLDR:

  • 01:00 Intros
  • 01:37 Cloud conversation with Robin Sutara
  • 27:26 The incredible rise of ChatGPT
  • 35:35 Being back on the same timezone as my calls!
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In this second part, Dave, Sjoukje & Rob continue their talk with David Anderson, Mark McCann & Micheal O’Reilly authors of ‘The Value Flywheel Effect: Power the Future and Accelerate your Organisation to the Modern Cloud’, and hear about how the book came to fruition and the Cloud transformation model that they developed from their time at Liberty Mutual and you anyone can leverage it to drive value, starting today!

In Tech Trends we talk about the increasing pace of organisations moving to the cloud, find out where analysts think we will be in 3 years time and why that might be true.

TLDR:

  • 00:48 Intro
  • 01:10 Cloud conversation with David Anderson, Mark McCann & Micheal O’Reilly
  • 25:46 Increasing pace of tech infrastructure migration to cloud
  • 32:11 Reactions to the book!

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In this first part, Dave, Sjoukje & Rob meet David Anderson, Mark McCann & Micheal O’Reilly authors of ‘The Value Flywheel Effect: Power the Future and Accelerate your Organisation to the Modern Cloud’, and hear about their time at Liberty Mutual where, hungry for pioneering techniques, they drove a serverless centric cloud transformation and started to talk to Simon Wardly about value streams.

In Tech Trends this week we talk about something on everyones mind, the cost of Cloud as we run into 2023 and discuss best practice ways to manage it.

TLDR:

  • 01:35 Intros
  • 02:30 Cloud conversation with David Anderson, Mark McCann & Micheal O’Reilly
  • 36:58 Managing Cloud cost
  • 46:00 The second time around!

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For some special Christmas food for thought, we focus on the far reaches of our “Realities”.  Here on the show we believe that interventional, courageous leadership combined with cloud can change the future reality of a business or human.  But, what is real? What is not? And does it matter?!

We look at the thinking currently happening in the space of the Simulation Hypothesis, which suggests that we likely live in a computer simulation, and ask how it can be applied to solve “better problems” and improve our innovation ambition.

Dave and Sjoukje are reunited with re:Invent Roving Reporter Rob Kernahan, who’s finally back from Vegas, and they talk to Anders Indset, Philosopher, Author and renowned speaker to get his insights following some recent research he has been participating in, in this field, as well as his thinking on The Quantum Economy (links below).

Finally, in tech trends we talk about the EUs recent use of the Metaverse to engage Gen Z in the work they do.  It was ill attended sadly, so the team speculate on what might have happened.

TLDR:

  • 01:36 Intros
  • 02:14 Cloud conversation with Anders IndsetEU in the MetaverseChristmas with family and a Quantum Economy trilogy!

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The healthcare care industry has been disrupted, with new entrants to the industry and tech, such as wearables, providing consumers with far more information and options, huge change is occurring.  How are healthcare providers responding to their customers’ expectations and health needs?

Dave and Sjoukje talk to Chief Digital & Information Officer of Baptist Health, Tony Ambrozie to hear about how they are using cloud to respond and transform their organisation, and how a step wise approach to cloud now sees them 70% migrated and well on the way to using tech to proactively improve patient health. 

Finally, in tech trends, they talk about how UK Government is using an innovative AI incentive scheme to help tackle decarbonisation.

TLDR:

  • 01:06  Intros
  • 01:48  Cloud conversation with Tony Ambrozie
  • 20:54  AI for Decarbonisation
  • 23:25  Improving patient health!
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The marketing industry has been at the spear head of digitalisation, both in how its customers are changing their expectations and in how marketing professionals work on a day to day basis, increasing both scale of reach and the ability to create meaningful experiences.  

Dave and Sjoukje talk to the Founder of Rooster Punk, James Trezona, to hear his perspective on how his profession has been transformed, but also how critical it is to focus on human and customer experience.  Finally, they reflect on the implications of Elon Musks recent take-over of Twitter.

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The team are at AWS re:Invent 2022 for our first live shows!

Hemant Sharma, Partner Solutions, AWS joins us to look back over the show, recap the big trends and look at their real world application.

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The team are at AWS re:Invent 2022 for our first live shows!

Tom Metzeler, Partner Solutions, AWS rejoins us to talk about how the cloud can help organisations reduce their impact on the environment.  And with all the talk this week of processor heavy work loads, like ML, or supermassive architectures, how can these be implemented safely?

Roving Reporter Rob reports on Day 3 and the final trends emerging.

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The team are at AWS re:Invent 2022 for our first live shows!

Jonathan Allen, Director Enterprise Strategy, AWS joins us to talk about what drives cloud transformation and how not to sabotage yours!

Rob updates us on what’s trending on Day 2 of the show.

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The team are at AWS re:Invent 2022 for our first live shows!

Dimitris Perdikou, Head of Engineering, Home Office, UK Government shares with us the Home Office early adoption (at scale) of the cloud, seven years ago(!) and the challenges that bring when you move to second generation cloud.Dimitris Perdikou

It’s Day 2 and the big themes of the conference are becoming clearer, our Roving Reporter Rob reports!

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Phil LeBrun, Enterprise Strategist, AWS, talks to us about why re-skilling your teams is critical not just to your transformations success, what it takes and why it’s such a leadership challenge.

Roving Reporter Rob Kernahan updates us on what else is trending on Day 1 of the show.

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The team are at AWS re:Invent 2022 for our first live shows!

Tom Metzeler, Partner Solutions, AWS, shares with us Amazon’s innovation process and how we can all leverage these techniques for purpose driven accelerated product development.

Roving reporter Rob Kernahan updates us on what’s trending on Day 1 of the show.

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In our three launch episodes, Dave and Sjoukje look at the cloud market from three different angles: the market itself, how CxO’s are viewing that market and from a personal leadership experience perspective.

In our final launch episode, they talk to Systemic Leadership Sherpa, Alastair Kidd about how embarking on a cloud transformation journey could also be a personal development journey!  How that could help reframe your leadership action to more effectively drive business value out of the cloud and why you need to be aware of the Complexity Paradox!  Finally, they talk about Googles recent announcement about opening new regions in Europe and speculate on why.

TLDR:

  • 01:07 Intros
  • 01:51 Cloud conversation with Alastair Kidd
  • 22:10 The complexity paradox
  • 28:20 Why so many cloud regions?
  • 32:32 Chickens!

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In our three launch episodes, Dave and Sjoukje look at the cloud market from three different angles: the market itself, how CxO’s are viewing that market and from a personal leadership experience perspective.

In this second episode, they talk to CxO Advisor, Daniel Hartert to get insights into the conversations he is currently having with CxOs on driving value from of the cloud in their organisations and the challenges they face.  He also shares his personal journey with the cloud.  Finally, they talk about how current economic environment will influence decision making on cloud over the coming years.

TLDR:

  • 00:43 Intros
  • 03:00 Cloud conversation with Daniel Hartert
  • 26:59 Cloud cost
  • 32:09 A nice weekend!
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In our three launch episodes, Dave and Sjoukje look at the cloud market from three different angles: the market itself, how CxO’s are viewing that market and from a personal leadership experience perspective.

In this first episode, they discuss some basic definitions for aspects of the cloud, to level set, then go on to talk about the current trends that are being felt industry wide and that are likely to impact 2023 and beyond.  Finally, they discuss the latest in AI image creation, DALL-E, and its possibilities.

TLDR:

  • 00:39 Intros
  • 03:09 Cloud conversation: Definitions
  • 15:32 Cloud conversation: Trends 2023
  • 28:10 DALL-E
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About our hosts

Dave Chapman

Dave has nearly 30 years of global experience in strategic development, transformation, program delivery and operations. In his role as Chief Cloud Evangelist at Capgemini, he helps clients anticipate and tackle the challenges and opportunities presented by the largest and most complex cloud transformations. He has advised and coached IT Leaders in all sectors and worked with them in solving leadership, strategic transformation, and execution/value realization challenges. Additionally, Dave was part of the Senior Leadership Team at Cloudreach, he established and led the Digital Foundations program at bp and he has worked as a CxO in Public Sector and enterprise FMCG. Dave was also the co-creator & co-host of well-known industry podcast, ‘Cloudbusting’. He is told he spends far too much on hi-fi and vinyl.

Sjoukje Zaal

Sjoukje Zaal is head of the Microsoft Cloud Center of Excellence at Capgemini, Microsoft Regional Director and Microsoft AI & Azure MVP with over 20 years of experience providing architecture, development, consultancy, and design expertise. She is the regional head of the architecture community in the Netherlands. She loves to share her knowledge and is active in the Microsoft community as a co-founder of Lowlands.community. She is director of the Global AI Community and organizer of Azure Lowlands. Sjoukje is an international speaker and involved in organizing many events. She wrote several books and writes blogs.

Rob Kernahan

Capgemini CTO group – UK Chief Architect for Cloud and a Global SME on Cloud Technology, Data and IT Operating Models
Rob is a member of the Capgemini CTO group as UK Chief Architect for Cloud and a Global SME on Cloud Technology, Data and IT Operating Models. Rob has over 20 years’ experience in Architecture and Delivery across a variety of sectors. Over the years he has led large transformational initiatives and has combined technology and people to create powerful outcomes.