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cloud realities – a podcast series

Exploring both the practical realities and the exciting alternative realities that can be unleashed through cloud driven transformation and cloud native living and working.

In each episode, our hosts Dave Chapman, Sjoukje Zaal and Rob Kernahan talk to cloud leaders and practitioners to understand how previously untapped business value can be released, how to deal with the challenges and risks that come with bold ventures, and how human experience factors into all of this. They cover topics ranging from smart industry, customer experience, and sustainability, to Gen AI and data, cyber, cost, leadership, talent and, of course, tech.

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Together, Dave, Sjoukje and Rob have over 70 years of cloud and transformation experience and act as our guides though a new reality each week.

Dave Chapman

VP Cloud Evangelist at Capgemini

Sjoukje Zaal

Chief Technology Officer and AI Lead at Capgemini

Rob Kernahan

UK Chief Architect for Cloud and a Global SME on Cloud Technology, Data and IT Operating Models

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      AI-driven platforms for automating multiple management workflows are increasingly common place in todays enterprises. However, the potential to exploit these platforms currently exceeds implementation footprints.

      This week Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk to Gretchen Alarcon, SVP & GM, Employee Workflows Products at ServiceNow about automating IT service management, IT operations management and IT business management, just digitising what is there vs. rethinking, how AI fits in and questions just how much of todays traditional management workflows can be automated.

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      • 01:09   Does internet search have future?
      • 06:00  Cloud conversation with Gretchen Alarcon
      • 34:30  The next big thing in automation
      • 40:40  Knowledge 2024 & moving to Ohio!

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      In the second part of our occasional series, looking directly at the digitalisation journeys and challenges of the worlds leading companies with their leaders, we are focusing on Unilever, one of the world’s largest consumer goods companies.

      They believe that digitalisation allows them to respond to customer expectations, supply chain disruption, cost inflation and the impact of an escalating climate crisis by unlocking radical new levels of collaboration, capability and consumer centricity.

      Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk to Juan Carlos Parada, Global Head of Customer Operations at Unilever about what a digital version of Unilever means, the excitement and anxiety of digitalisation, the challenges in leading such a scale transformation and the personal learnings from the journey.

      TLDR:

      • 01:30  Big tech vs nation state confusion
      • 04:37  Cloud conversation with Juan Carlos Parada
      • 57:22  Top customer experience trends
      • 01:00:32  Digital immersion!

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      Haleon, a world-leading consumer health company, refer to themselves the worlds biggest startup.  However, they are also dealing with large enterprise legacy, as they were formed via a demerger from GSK.  While product engineering and the transition to product-centric organizations are often associated solely with born-in-the-cloud companies, the reality is usually much broader, and Haleon are on that journey.

      This week Dave, Rob and Sjoukje talk to Steve Westgarth, Global Head of Engineering & Architecture at Haleon, about product engineering best practices, building high performing teams, aligning product teams with the business, getting the engineers as close to the business as possible and whether Agile is dead or not.

      TLDR:

      • 02:30 Cookie confusion
      • 05:40 Cloud conversation with Steve Westgarth
      • 29:00 Five key characteristics of high performing teams 
      • 35:00 A surprise birthday party!

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      Sustainability and climate impact is widely understood as a critical problem, but what we can specifically do at an individual level in a business environment is sometimes less clear.

      This week, Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk to Rainer Karcher, Chief Sustainability Officer, Allianz Technology about how CSR and the Climate challenge come together, the 3 pillars of of societal responsibility, how digitalisation fits in, how to be a climate activist at work and whether we all should be one.

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      • 03:05 Smart City and robot confusion
      • 06:00 Cloud conversation with Rainer Karcher
      • 36:00 New steps into the future!

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      Live from the heart of Google Next’24 in Las Vegas, right from the Expo floor, we’re bringing you a special limited series of episodes. Join us as we make connections between Google, AI, industry adoption, cloud transformation and customer experience. Plus, we’ll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip. 

      On day three of the conference Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk to 

      • Kevin Shatzkamer, Managing Director Conversational AI about Accelerating Customer Experience meets AI
      • Miku Jha, Director, AI/ML Partner Engineering, about Software engineering for generative meets AI.

      TLDR:

      • 00:55 Announcements from the Expo floor at Google Next’24
      • 06:45 Accelerating Customer Experience meets AI with Kevin Shatzkamer
      • 35:00 Software engineering for generative meets AI with Miku Jha
      • 01:05:40 The gang round the week off

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      Live from the heart of Google Next’24 in Las Vegas, right from the Expo floor, we’re bringing you a special limited series of episodes. Join us as we make connections between Google, AI, industry adoption, cloud transformation and customer experience. Plus, we’ll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip. 

      On day two of the conference Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk to: 

      • Nigel Walsh, Head of Global Insurance about Insurance meets AI. 
      • Paula Natoli, Director, Global Strategic Industries, Supply Chain and Logistics about Supply Chain meets AI 
      • Fabien Duboeuf, Industry Manager, Manufacturing about How AI is revolutionizing Production Operations and Customer Experience

      TLDR:

      • 00:40 Announcements from the Expo floor at Google Next’24
      • 12:11 Insurance meets AI with Nigel Walsh
      • 32:55 Supply Chain and Logistics meets AI with Paula Natoli
      • 52:42 Cloud transform & customer experience meets AI with Fabien Duboeuf
      • 1:15:24 End

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      Live from the heart of Google Next’24 in Las Vegas, right from the Expo floor, we’re bringing you a special limited series of episodes. Join us as we make connections between Google, AI, industry adoption, cloud transformation and customer experience. Plus, we’ll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip. 

      On day one of the conference Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk to 

      • Erwan Menard, Director Product Management and Customer Activation, Cloud AI about Innovation meets AI 
      • Justin Keeble, Managing Director for Global Sustainability about Sustainability meets AI

      TLDR:

      • 00:40 Announcements from the Expo floor at Google Next’24
      • 08:38 Innovation meets AI with Erwan Menard
      • 30:02 Sustainability meets AI with Justin Keeble

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      As a first part of a new occasional series, we look directly at the digitalisation journeys and challenges of the worlds leading companies with their leaders. 

      We start with Fresenius, a European multinational health care company based in Bad Homburg, Germany. It provides products and services for dialysis in hospitals, as well as inpatient and outpatient medical care.

      This week, Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk to Ingo Elfering, Group CIO of Fresenius and German CIO Magazine’s CIO of the Year 2023, about their complex, multi-threaded transformation approach. They discuss what this approach now enables for Fresenius, how the cloud is at the heart of enabling the change, the next steps now that a significant new platform has been established, and how the right tone was set at the Board level to enable the transformation.

      TLDR:

      • 01:33 Kern-Vergence!
      • 06:00 Cloud conversation with Ingo Elfering
      • 49:47 What next after the transformation and planning this years vacation!

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      GreenOps presents a significant challenge in enterprise’s approach to emissions data, sustainability, and cloud operations. Balancing tech innovation with eco-responsibility requires strategic alignment and continuous effort, but the rewards are worth it!

      This week Dave and Sjoukje talk to Mark Butcher, Founder & CEO of Posetiv, about GreenOps, how it aligns with the reality of our software, SaaS, and cloud usage, why emissions data will go up before it goes down, and if cost is truly a reliable proxy for sustainability. 

      TLDR:

      • 01:00 Rob is confused about is his carbon footprint
      • 06:15 Cloud conversation with Mark Butcher
      • 19:10 Amazing survey outcomes and impact on Talent
      • 43:25 Federation across Green Ops

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      Telzio are a great example of Cloud driven innovation, providing a software driven telecoms platform to businesses of all sizes on the Cloud.  But even more fascinating is the story of how Telzio came to exist at all…

      This week Dave and Sjoukje talk to Peter Schroeder, Founder and CEO, Telzio about why and how a successful DJ started a Cloud driven Telecoms company, how you kickstart without external funding or advertising, the Telecom industry competition and challenges, oh, and how you survive a plane crash!

      TLDR:

      • 01:36 Cosmic Rays
      • 05:42 Cloud conversation with Peter Schroeder
      • 31:20 AI in the music industry
      • 38:46 Spend time with my kids doing whatever they want to do!

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      A ‘Digital Certificate’ proves the authenticity of a device, server, or user as they communicate with each other – they quietly enforce safety and security in our digital world.  However, like in most industries, there is disruption on the horizon in the world of digital certs, and that affects all of us.

      This week Dave and Sjoukje talk to Nick France, CTO of SSL, Sectigo about what certificates do to keep us safe, the impact if a certificate is compromised, what the coming changes are, how they impact organisations and what they should do about it.  We also talk about the big Cyber trends for 2024.

      TLDR:

      • 01:40 Apple and the EU
      • 07:00 Cloud conversation with Nick France
      • 32:30 2024 Cyber Trends
      • 38:11 Industry change and Bricktastic!

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      To celebrate International Womens Day we are delighted to welcome Women in Data back to the show.  They provide a platform that allows professionals at all levels to share their knowledge and experience, while working alongside businesses to help them embrace and develop the enormous advantages generated by diversity.

      This week Dave and Sjoukje talk to Roisin McCarthy, Founder at Women in Data and Elisa Sai, VP Analytics & AI at Capgemini Invent about Women in Data’s ‘Twenty in Data & Tech’ series, this weeks flagship event at Londons o2, get an exclusive announcement on next years ‘Twenty in Data & Tech’ series and a call to action!  We also talk to Elisa about what it is like to be involved in the movement.

      TLDR:

      • 00:56 Intros
      • 02:17 Cloud conversation with Roisin McCarthy and Elisa Sai
      • 28:10 International Womens Day
      • 35:00 Rest of the year with WiD & a birthday! 

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      We are live from #MWC24 (Mobile World Conference 2024), direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to leaders from across the industry on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

      Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk about ‘Humanising AI‘ with Fawad Qureshi  Field CTO at Snowflake and Phil Kippen, Global Head Of Industry – Telecommunications at Snowflake. The gang then round out the weeks shows by exploring the sixth and final theme, ‘Manufacturing DX‘ and share their reflections on the show, and their disappointments in certain demos…

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      We are live from #MWC24 (Mobile World Conference 2024), direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to leaders from across the industry on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

      Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Zarn Kucel, Global Head of AWS Hybrid Edge, Telco & CSP and Chris McKenna is the Worldwide Head of Business Development for Private Networks at AWS about the theme of ‘5G and beyond‘, Hybrid Edge and Mobile Private Networks, discover the potential of NaaS (Network as a Service) and how the Cloud and Communications are converging to provide an unltra-powerful innovation platform.

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      We are live from #MWC24 (Mobile World Congress 2024), direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to leaders from across the industry on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

      Dave, Sjoukje and Rob explore the conference theme of ‘Game Changers‘ by talking to three technology providers who are creating new solutions to solve some of our biggest challenges: Paul Armstrong, Global Sales Director, Digital Services, Schneider Electric about Smart Buildings and their critical role in helping businesses operating more sustainably and how having an ‘Energy Command Centre’ can help; and Greg Pelton, CTO Iridium and Richard Deakin, CEO, Stratospheric Platforms Ltd about the potential of non-terrestrial networks in both the stratosphere and low earth orbit to bring communications to previously hard to reach locations and space networks direct to consumer devices. They also talk about the difficulties in working in space!

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      We are live from #MWC24 (Mobile World Congress 2024), direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to leaders from across the industry on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

      Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Mohamed Awad, SVP/GM, Infrastructure Business at Arm about the ‘Our Digital DNA‘ conference theme, the evolution of processing power and the challenges of ever increasing demand whilst managing the impact on the environment.  They also chat about the exciting consumer devices that have been announced at the show, including a flying taxi.

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      We are live from #MWC24 (Mobile World Congress 2024), direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to leaders from across the industry on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

      Dave, Sjoukje and Rob set out the themes of the Conference, then focus in on the theme of ‘Connecting Everything’ with Muneyb Minhazuddin, VP/GM Network and Edge, Intel on Edge and 5G, and Anand Chandrasikher, Founder and CEO, Aira Networks on Intelligence in Open and Disaggregated RAN (Radio Access Network).

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      The FinOps Foundation defines FinOps as “an operational framework and cultural practice which maximizes the business value of cloud, enables timely data-driven decision making, and creates financial accountability through collaboration between engineering, finance, and business teams.”  Sounds good! So why are many organisations still not doing it well?

      This week Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk to Kunal Agarwal, CEO and Co-founder, Unravel Data on the requirement for finops, what is it and why do you need it, if the Finance Depts are getting involved, what good practices looking, how ‘inform, govern, optimise’ fit in and why you should measure everything!

      TLDR:

      • 01:03 Why do people still use weak passwords?
      • 06:20 Cloud conversation with Kunal Agarwal
      • 32:34 Top Cyber Trends 2024
      • 37:20 Cars, cars, cars!

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      Private Equity organisations are in the fascinating position of having a view across many organisations, they help smaller organisations scale and have a strong grip on what works, and what doesn’t, in scaling and optimising businesses.

      This week Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk to Bas Kamphuis, Founder and CEO, Wingspan, a company who seek to increase the value of software companies through cloud transformation, about what repeatable truths of cloud transformation can be learned from seeing the patterns working across multiple companies and what lessons we can be taken away.

      TLDR:

      • 01:00 The future of news
      • 05:12 Cloud conversation with Bas Kamphuis
      • 38:18 The vital role of Cloud for Private Equity firms
      • 44:24 Happy to be alive!

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      The ‘energy transition’ refers to the global energy sector’s shift from fossil-based systems of energy production and consumption — including oil, natural gas and coal — to renewable energy sources like wind and solar, as well as lithium-ion batteries.  It is one of, if not the most, significant issues of our time.  Tech can both help and hinder in this journey.

      This week Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk to Rob Easton, Senior Sales Manager, AWS Energy EMEA, AWS on how energy is made, how its moved and how its used, how Amazon are ready themselves as an organisation, but also how they are providing tools and services to allow other organisations to impact the carbon footprint of their tech and maybe more widely.

      TLDR:

      • 01:10 JUMP! and will robots be looking after us when we are (more) elderly?
      • 06:00 Cloud conversation with Rob Easton
      • 36:20 AI and the energy transition
      • 41:50 Family ski holidays!

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      Can AI help solve a perinial problem of how we leverage data in our organisations to drive value

      This week Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk to Iain Niven-Bowling, CTO, Harbr about data demoraticsation, access data, connect data sources and make it available via natural language interfaces

      TLDR:

      • 01:04 Streaming confusion
      • 06:00 Cloud conversation with Iain Niven-Bowling
      • 23:35 GenAI as the starting point for innovation
      • 31:00 the Fan Dance!

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      As a special treat in what we think is our 50th studio episode, we have an extended conversation with none other than Gene Kim, industry thought leader and author of The DevOps Handbook, the seminal Pheonix Project, the Unicorn Project, and now Wiring the winning organisation.  Gene is one of the true thought leaders in modern tech and its exciting to explore the themes of Cloud Realties with him!

      The gang talk about Genes early work, then deep dive into his new work, which reaches outside the realms of tech and talks about what it takes to become a modern organisation.

      TLDR:

      • 01:00 Easy to let facts get in the way of a good story
      • 04:30 Extended cloud conversation with Gene Kim
      • 43:10 Playing with AI!

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      Each year Capgemini publishes TechnoVision – a comprehensive prediction of the year in business tech to come, along with useful principles that guide both its prediction and use.  It seeks to bring some fresh thinking to the technology business issues of today.

      In this special two part episode Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk to Robert Engels, Global CTIO for AI Futures, Head of Generative AI Lab at Capgemini, about a foundational theme of TechnoVision 2024, data and AI.  They cover whether investment cycles are keeping up with the hype curve, data eco systems, new risks and issues introduced by AI and whether we are still using the same old use cases, or if new and previously unimaginable use cases are now emerging.

      TLDR:

      • 01:45 Lego Data model?
      • 03:47 Cloud conversation with Robert Engels
      • 45:20  Forbes tech trends
      • 44:12  Snow games and seeing how 2024 develops!

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      Each year Capgemini publishes TechnoVision – a comprehensive prediction of the year in business tech to come, along with useful principles that guide both its prediction and use.  It seeks to bring some fresh thinking to the technology business issues of today. 

      In this special two part episode Dave, Sjoukje & Rob talk in detail with the reports leader Ron Tolido and get a special insight into the creation and themes and trends of TechnoVision 2024!  The next generation of human augmentation with technology is at the heart of the report and the discussion. We also find out how much Ron likes Taylor Swift and compare and contrast the predictions in TechnoVision with other trend predictions for 2024.

      TLDR:

      • 01:45 The team catch up after the Christmas break
      • 03:47 Cloud conversation with Ron Tolido
      • 45:20 Forbes tech trends
      • 51:15 Alexa run my business!

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      With the launch of their connected car, the AFEELA, Sony Honda Mobility seek to redefine mobility, beyond simply transportation, and create the opportunity to use the space creatively and explore the relationship between people and mobility.

      In this special episode Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk to Takuya Nishibayashi, Head of E&E System Architecture Development Division, Sony Honda Mobility Inc., who is at CES2024 for the release of the AFEELA.  They cover why Sony Honda are collaborating on a connected car now, how responsible and ethical GenAI is leveraged for assisted driving (ADAS), how mobility can be used as a creative entertainment space, including using gaming engines, the integrated in vehicle experience and how Microsoft partner with them for GenAI tooling and Cloud-scale computing platforms.

      TLDR:

      • 01:07 Introduction of the AFEELA by Dave, Sjoukje and Rob
      • 06:53 Cloud conversation with Takuya Nishibayashi
      • 30:59 Outro 
      • 31:57 End

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      There is no doubt that Artificial Intelligence, and specifically GenAI, has been one, if not the, most widely discussed and debated subjects of the year.  The question of AI ethics and how seriously to take the impact of AI on society is one of the biggest and most polarising questions of our time.

      In this very special Christmas episode Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk about the ethical issues inherent in any technology use, which are specifically critical when it comes to AI, with Father Paolo Benanti, Professor of Ethics & Technology, Pontificia Università Gregoriana, Advisor in the Vatican and member of the Advisory Board to the General Secretary of the United Nations.  We also cover the incredible roles he has with the Vatican and UN, how he frames ethical use of AI and ‘The Rome call for AI Ethics’.  We then talk about how the importance of understanding the challenges and risks of implementing AI.

      TLDR:

      • 01:07 Super-Cloud!
      • 05:02 Cloud conversation with Paulo Benanti
      • 39:40 Understanding the challenges and risks of AI implementation
      • 46:47 Some time over Christmas to read a good book!

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      Cyber has long been a top risk for businesses.  However, it is still often perceived as an IT or tech issue, rather than the existential risk to the business that it could be.  It is also likely that Cyber will continue to grow as an issue, and in complexity, as we enter the AI-age.

      This week Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk to Simon Hodgkinson, ex-FTSE 100 CISO & Board and Executive Advisor, about the history of the Cyber threat, current threat levels and attack surfaces, sensible mitigations and what is missing in the conversation that Boards and senior teams are having about the Cyber risk.  They also talk about the top trends in the world of Cyber security in 2024.

      TLDR:

      • 01:00 Rob can’t work Bluetooth!
      • 04:30 Cloud conversation with Simon Hodgkinson
      • 37:14 Top Cyber Trends 2024
      • 43:10 Some summer sun! 

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      Open source and Cloud Native thinking and approaches can be very synergistic and drive value for organisations, but both are still not well understood today.

      This week, Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk to Massimo Ferrari, Distinguished Product manager, Red Hat about open source philosophy, misunderstandings about open source that still exist, what Cloud Native actually is and question if these two approaches can come together to drive faster value.  We then talk about how GenAI can power Cloud transformation.

      TLDR:

      • 01:00 The technology singularity
      • 06:11 Cloud conversation with Massimo Ferrari
      • 35:24 How GenAI and Cloud compliment each other
      • 43:50 Festive trip around London!

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      We are live from AWS re:Invent 2023 in Las Vegas, direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to AWS leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

      Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Rahul Sareen, Global Head Sustainability Solutions and GTM, AWS about AWS’s evolving approach to sustainability

      The gang also do a final round up of themes, highlights and best swag to wrap up this years re:Invent 2023 series.

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      We are live from AWS re:Invent 2023 in Las Vegas, direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to AWS leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

      In this weeks second double feature, we are looking at Sovereignty & Cyber, we focus on how AWS Cloud is responding to two of the biggest challenges today.  Dave, Sjoukje and Rob dig into this in two separate sessions with:

      Max Peterson, VP sovereign cloud, AWS about the importance of recognising sovereignty, how AWS frame the requirement and the response.

      Gary Meshell, MD Global GSI cybersecurity program & Anne Saunders, Global Cybersecurity Director, Capgemini about the growing threat and sophistication of Cyber in an evermore complex world.

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      We are live from AWS re:Invent 2023 in Las Vegas, direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to AWS leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

      Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Jeff Barr, VP & Chief Evangelist, AWS, about his early days at AWS, the evolution of re:Invent itself, the three major compute paradigms over the last 60 years, how Cloud and AI fit into that and how to equip the next generation.  We also hear about Jeff’s family all being at re:Invent for the first time together this year.

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      We are live from AWS re:Invent 2023 in Las Vegas, direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to AWS leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

      In this double feature looking at ‘Industry Cloud’, we focus on the impact of the Cloud in two sectors.  Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to:

      Keith Mulder, Partner Strategy Leader, AWS Automotive & Manufacturing, about disruption in the Automotive sector, including connected car, the energy transition and changing customer expectations and buying habits.

      Melissa Dougherty, Director Partner Success for Global Financial Services, AWS about disruption in the Financial Services sector, including state of legacy and legacy modernisation.

      Finally, we get an update on Robs search for a mouse and have some alarming news about the Cloud Realities monkey!

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      We are live from AWS re:Invent 2023 in Las Vegas, direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to AWS leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

      Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Tanuja Randery, VP EMEA, AWS, about the opportunities and challenges in leading across such a diverse region, her top 3 themes across EMEA from her many discussions with organisations, her passion for promoting women in leadership and tech, GenAI adoption at scale and Cirque du Soleil!

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      We are live from AWS re:Invent 2023 in Las Vegas, direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to AWS leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

      Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Rohan Karmarkar, Director GSI Solutions Architecture, AWS, about two immediate themes of the conference (1) modernise to both go faster and save money (2) Amazon Q.  We talk about how these innovations impact the Customer conversation with AWS, a good customer example and catch up on what else has been announced at the show.  Finally, we have a chat about our preferred steaks and answer the most important question… sauce or no sauce?

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      The Cynefin Framework sets out different lenses through which circumstances can be made sense of, from ‘clear’ through to ‘chaos’!  As we have covered on previous episodes of the show (CR020 & CR003), it is very useful for helping frame and understand the shift to “digital”.

      This week, Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk to Rob England and Cherry Vu, who are Teal Unicorn and explore new ways of management, about the relevance of the Cynefin Framework in their work with organisations, the builds Rob and Cherry have made on it (with Dave Snowden!), and what results they have seen.  We also talk about ways to drive additional value from the Cloud.

      TLDR:

      • 01:00 Anti-Compentative UK probe into Cloud Service Providers
      • 04:40 Cloud conversation with Rob England and Cherry Vu
      • 44:13 Three actions to unlock greater Cloud Value
      • 51:50 Celebrating Robs 21st birthday and a Corporate Rebels write up!

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      Technology democratisation is the process of reorienting technology tools to require less specialized knowledge to use and drive value.  This can happen at organisational or societal level, and lead to more rapid application and radically increased innovation.

      This week, Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk to Nabil Bukhari, CTO and CPO at Extreme Networks and a regular contributor to Forbes, about how he became so inspired by tech democratisation, why it is important for society to have equal access to tech and what the implications and advantages are for your organisation.  Finally, we talk about successful innovation tactics for leaders.

      TLDR:

      • 01:13 Next gen smart glasses
      • 02:30 Cloud conversation with Nabil Bukhari
      • 33:35 8 tactics for leaders to successfully innovate
      • 42:22 Talk at a CIO conf in the Valley! 

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      In a first technology convergence, physics came together with engineering to produce an array of astonishing new technologies: radios, telephones, televisions, aircraft, radar, nuclear power, computers, the Internet and a host of still evolving digital tools.  Today we are on the cusp of a new convergence…

      This week, Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Susan Hockfield, President Emerita, MIT about how biology is now coming together with engineering to create a wave of next generation technologies.  They talk about the evolution of this new technology, exciting initial use cases and the challenges of industrialising these new machines.  We also talk about how LLM’s might also learn the language of biology and drive further breakthroughs.

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      • 01:47 Will virtual realities ever really be a reality?
      • 05:29 Cloud conversation with Susan Hockfield
      • 44:30 Biology and LLM’s
      • 48:28 MIT Energy Initiative external advisor conference!

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      GenAI use cases emerge everyday, however they tend to be quite discreet currently, to unlock its potential at scale we are likely to see platforms and significant organisational change emerge at an unprecedented speed over the next year.

      In a special live episode from London at Microsoft Envision The Tour in October 2023, Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to a panel led by John Cairney, Head of Digital Strategy and Architecture, Scottish Water with Giles Walker, CTO Retail and Consumer Packaged Goods, Microsoft and Steven Webb, CTIO UK, Capgemini about what good AI experimentation and use cases look like, what Scottish Water are doing to pilot GenAI at scale, in particular their experiences with Co-Pilot, along with what the scale organisational implications of GenAI might be and looking to the future, if and when AI transformation might ultimately tackle process centric enterprise apps such as ERP. 

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      • 00:44 What Dave, Sjoukje & Rob did in London
      • 03:00 Cloud conversation with John Cairney, Giles Walker, and Steven Webb
      • 46:50 Outro

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      Automation in software development is a way to minimise errors during the software development process, make it faster and more cost-efficient, and improve team collaboration and productivity.  Highly effective development teams dedicate their best staff to this task, believing it will unlock new levels of developer productivity and creativity.

      This week, Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Ramiro Berrelleza, Founder and CEO at Okteto, a company that modernises the development experience, about the core idea and founding of Okteto, why developer automation has high value attached to it, whether business leadership are engaging with it as route to value and, it wouldnt be a show without it, what disruption AI is already having on software development.

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      • 00:55 Is the lack of necessity the mother of invention?
      • 03:50 Cloud conversation with Ramiro Berrelleza
      • 31:15 How AI can transform software engineering
      • 37:00 The week to be over and Peruvian food!

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      More about our hosts

      Dave Chapman

      VP Cloud Evangelist at Capgemini
      Dave has nearly 30 years of global experience in strategic development, transformation, program delivery and operations. In his role as Chief Cloud Evangelist at Capgemini, he helps clients anticipate and tackle the challenges and opportunities presented by the largest and most complex cloud transformations. He has advised and coached IT leaders in all sectors and worked with them in solving leadership, strategic transformation, and execution/value realization challenges. Additionally, Dave was part of the senior leadership team at Cloudreach, he established and led the Digital Foundations program at BP, and has worked as CxO in public sector and enterprise FMCG. Dave was also the co-creator and co-host of well-known industry podcast, ‘Cloudbusting’. He is told he spends far too much on hi-fi and vinyl.

      Sjoukje Zaal

      Chief Technology Officer and AI Lead at Capgemini
      Sjoukje Zaal is head of the Microsoft Cloud Center of Excellence at Capgemini, Microsoft Regional Director and Microsoft AI & Azure MVP with over 20 years of experience providing architecture, development, consultancy, and design expertise. She is the regional head of the architecture community in the Netherlands. She loves to share her knowledge and is active in the Microsoft community as a co-founder of Lowlands.community. She is director of the Global AI Community and organizer of Azure Lowlands. Sjoukje is an international speaker and involved in organizing many events. She wrote several books and writes blogs.

      Rob Kernahan

      UK Chief Architect for Cloud and a Global SME on Cloud Technology, Data and IT Operating Models
      Rob is a member of the Capgemini CTO group as UK Chief Architect for Cloud and a Global SME on Cloud Technology, Data and IT Operating Models. Rob has over 20 years’ experience in Architecture and Delivery across a variety of sectors. Over the years he has led large transformational initiatives and has combined technology and people to create powerful outcomes.

      Marcel van der Burg

      VP Global Marketing, Group Cloud Priority