{"id":551557,"date":"2025-07-16T14:25:38","date_gmt":"2025-07-16T09:12:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/ch-en\/?post_type=research-and-insight&#038;p=551557"},"modified":"2025-11-20T11:30:30","modified_gmt":"2025-11-20T11:30:30","slug":"a-conversation-with-corence-klop","status":"publish","type":"research-and-insight","link":"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/ch-en\/insights\/research-library\/a-conversation-with-corence-klop\/","title":{"rendered":"Harnessing AI for cyber resilience: A conversation with Corence Klop"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<header class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-hero-reusable header heroReusable  \"><div class=\"header-bgs\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/DotCom_Banner_2880X1800.jpg?w=2880&amp;quality=70 1x, https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/DotCom_Banner_2880X1800.jpg?w=2880&amp;quality=70 2x\" media=\"(min-width: 1500px)\"\/><source 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class=\"button-download--small\" type=\"download\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/CFT-10_Corence-Klop.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" title=\"opens in a new window\"><span>Download the article<\/span><span class=\"type\">2 MB  pdf<\/span><\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/header>\n\n\n\n<section class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-group undefined section section--article-content\"><div class=\"article-main-content\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row\"><div class=\"col-12 col-md-1\"><nav class=\"article-social\"><ul class=\"social-nav\"><li class=\"ip-order-fb\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer\/sharer.php?u=https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/?post_type=research-and-insight&amp;p=1142587\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" title=\"opens in a new window\"><i aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"icon-fb\"><\/i><span class=\"sr-only\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><\/li><li class=\"ip-order-li\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/shareArticle?url=https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/?post_type=research-and-insight&amp;p=1142587\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" title=\"opens in a new window\"><i aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"icon-li\"><\/i><span class=\"sr-only\">Linkedin<\/span><\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div><div class=\"col-12 col-md-11 col-lg-10\"><div class=\"article-text article-quote-text\">\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-harnessing-ai-for-cyber-resilience\">Harnessing AI for cyber resilience<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignright size-full is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/Corence-Klop-3.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1143504\" style=\"width:300px\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-corence-klop-chief-information-security-officer-rabobank\">Corence Klop, Chief Information Security Officer, Rabobank<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Corence Klop holds almost 20 years of experience within Rabobank with leading roles in the areas of digital transformation, innovation and data &amp; analytics. In her current role, as Chief Information Security Officer, Corence is responsible for setting the information security vision, strategy and priorities, develop and maintain the information security standards and frameworks, and representing Rabobank in matters of resilience within The Netherlands.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>She also works as a non-executive board member of the Rabobank Pension fund and member of the supervisory board of a library.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:10px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-can-you-walk-us-through-your-journey-at-rabobank-and-your-current-responsibilities-as-ciso\">Can you walk us through your journey at Rabobank and your current responsibilities as CISO?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>I stepped into the role of CISO at Rabobank in September 2023. In this position, I hold global and group-level responsibility &nbsp;for the security of the bank. This includes our central operations, as well as regional branches and subsidiaries. It\u2019s a role that comes with immense accountability. If something goes wrong, the buck stops with me. But it also gives me the freedom to shape the bank\u2019s strategic agenda for&nbsp;change.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Prior to this, I spent three years in the bank\u2019s data and analytics division. I led, for example, a community of 600\u2013700 professionals focused on data and analytics \u2013 a key area of expertise within the organization. My interest lies in analytics &nbsp;and uncovering ways to extract value through actionable insights.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I have a background in innovation management, which fuels my passion for emerging technologies. I&#8217;m constantly on the lookout for new tools and techniques that can help us stay ahead, particularly in security and operational resilience.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-do-you-find-there-is-friction-between-creating-value-with-data-and-protecting-it\">Do you find there is friction between creating value with data and protecting it?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>There is friction, but I think it partly comes from my personality. I\u2019m opportunistic, always thinking about what can be done with data or certain technologies. At the same time, working in security means a strong focus on protecting privacy and assets and ringfencing sensitive data. Both aspects are important. Security isn\u2019t just about preventing risk \u2013 it\u2019s also about creating the greatest value for your organization and our customers.<a id=\"_msocom_1\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>&#8220;Security isn\u2019t just about preventing risk \u2013 it\u2019s also about creating the greatest value for your organization and our customers.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/A-conversation-with-Corence-Klop-banner2.jpg?w=960\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1143529\" style=\"width:300px\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-vivid-cyan-blue-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-60bd757dd3322753bfe7a102b711a0a2\" id=\"h-the-surge-in-cyberattacks\"><strong>The surge in cyberattacks<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-since-assuming-leadership-have-you-noticed-a-rise-in-the-number-and-nature-of-cyberattacks\">Since assuming leadership, have you noticed a rise in the number and nature of cyberattacks?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>The increase has been exponential. In the first half of 2025 there has been a major increase in distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks. March 2025 saw more denial requests entire 2024. Financial Services is the most frequently attacked industry (34% of all global attacks). In Q1 2025, we have seen more than 250k phishing attacks against Rabobank. That\u2019s a staggering number and testament to how aggressive the threat landscape has become.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The attack maturity is also increasing, which has massive operational implications. We are talking about phishing, QR code scams, man-in-the-middle attacks and, increasingly, deepfake-based threats. What\u2019s more concerning is that this trend is not plateauing. Rather, it\u2019s escalating.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That\u2019s why technologies such as AI are not just a strategic advantage, they&#8217;re a necessity. With threats increasing both in volume and sophistication, we need smarter, more scalable solutions to prevent and respond and to stay resilient.<a id=\"_msocom_1\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:25%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/A-conversation-with-Corence-Klop-banner1-1.jpg?w=960\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1143547\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>&#8220;In Q1 2025, we have seen more than 250k phishing attacks against Rabobank.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-what-do-you-see-as-the-primary-drivers-of-this-surge-in-cyber-threats\">What do you see as the primary drivers of this surge in cyber threats?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>A major factor is the volatile geopolitical environment. These dynamics have real consequences on the cyber landscape.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nation-state actors and politically motivated threat groups are becoming more active. And even beyond state-driven actions, the general level of criminal sophistication has risen. Bad actors are evolving fast. They\u2019re using AI themselves now. It\u2019s no longer just lone hackers or small-time phishing scammers; there\u2019s a whole ecosystem behind this.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-could-you-expand-on-the-evolution-of-phishing-and-how-attackers-are-adapting-their-methods\">Could you expand on the evolution of phishing and how attackers are adapting their methods?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Phishing remains one of the most persistent and effective forms of attack, but it&#8217;s evolving. It\u2019s no longer just about fake emails with suspicious links. Phishing kits have added AI integration to simplify the process to build multi-language tailored phishing pages delivering much more sophisticated results.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Perhaps more alarmingly, <strong>deepfakes<\/strong> are entering the equation. Imagine receiving a video call or voicemail from someone who looks and sounds exactly like your boss, asking you to approve a financial transaction urgently.&nbsp; Deepfake continues to be on the rise. Threat actors increasingly offer deepfake services claiming to be able to circumvent Know-Your-Customer protocols.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This evolution of threats makes it clear that conventional security measures are no longer sufficient. Attackers are using emerging technologies, and we need to keep up.<a id=\"_msocom_1\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>&#8220;Deepfakes are entering the equation. Imagine receiving a video call or voicemail from someone who looks and sounds exactly like your boss, asking you to approve a financial transaction urgently.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/A-conversation-with-Corence-Klop-banner3.jpg?w=960\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1143531\" style=\"width:300px\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-vivid-cyan-blue-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-a354530a0bb1f48e59972733b1a7fb14\" id=\"h-keeping-up-with-the-threat-environment\"><strong><strong>Keeping up with the threat environment<\/strong><\/strong>:<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-with-such-advanced-threats-how-is-rabobank-preparing-for-the-future\">With such advanced threats, how is Rabobank preparing for the future?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Security is a <strong>core capability<\/strong>. We have an information security strategy with a solid foundation to defend against most future threats.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The sheer volume of attacks means we need systems that can <strong>prioritize, detect, and respond<\/strong>, often autonomously. This is where <strong>AI and automation<\/strong> come in. For example, automating the triage of security alerts can save thousands of hours of analyst time and ensure critical incidents are caught early.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Beyond that, the people and process part of our strategy are very important. All employees have a role to play and should have a minimum level of security maturity so they know how to behave in a secure way. Security is not the job of one department. It\u2019s embedded in our IT, operations, and customer-facing units. Everyone has a role to play. &nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We are not alone in this. We actively join forces with other major organizations in the Netherlands by sharing our experiences and knowledge, to stay prepared for future challenges.<a id=\"_msocom_1\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:25%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/A-conversation-with-Corence-Klop-banner4.jpg?w=960\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1143532\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>&#8220;Automating the triage of security alerts can save thousands of hours of analyst time and ensure critical incidents are caught early.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-how-do-you-align-that-long-term-security-view-with-agile-ways-of-working\">How do you align that long-term security view with agile ways of working?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>As mentioned in our security strategy, we\u2019ve defined a Foundation, which includes all essential security measures. But beyond that, we also prepare for emerging technologies such as AI and quantum computing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Our strategy is translated into yearly priorities. Of course, we cover the basics that every organization needs, but we also explore how to prepare for developments that may arise in two or three years. I try to strike a balance in ensuring we have the technology we need today, while building for the future.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A good example is post-quantum cryptography. It might not be an imminent risk, but we know it\u2019s coming. I push for topics like that to be included in our priorities. That means starting with an inventory of what we currently have, building internal expertise, and embedding these topics in the organization\u2019s agenda.<a id=\"_msocom_1\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>&#8220;Post-quantum cryptography. It might not be an imminent risk, but we know it\u2019s coming.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/CFT-Interview-Olaf-Groth-abstract-3.jpg?w=960\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1141303\" style=\"width:298px\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-vivid-cyan-blue-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-8764abda502c1654fcc52f6bf2d68fc4\" id=\"h-ai-and-cybersecurity\">AI and cybersecurity:<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-in-your-view-where-does-ai-and-specifically-generative-ai-gen-ai-hold-the-most-immediate-potential-in-cybersecurity-operations\">In your view, where does AI \u2013 and specifically generative AI (Gen AI) \u2013 hold the most immediate potential in cybersecurity operations?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>In the short term, I believe the greatest potential for AI and Gen AI, lies within the security operations center (SOC). The SOC deals with a massive volume of alerts daily, and that\u2019s precisely where Gen AI can be a game-changer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One key use case is assisting analysts during the alert investigation process. Gen AI can streamline their workflows by quickly searching across multiple databases and offering recommendations for action. It essentially acts as an advisor, advising whether to escalate an alert, ignore it, or take specific action.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-what-approach-are-you-taking-to-improve-detection-and-response\">What approach are you taking to improve detection and response?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Since we didn\u2019t find a reliable off-the-shelf solution, we\u2019ve started building our own ML model specifically trained on our own data.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The advantage here is twofold. First, we control the dataset, which means we can fine-tune the model to our environment and threat landscape. Second, it allows us to embed domain knowledge directly into the model, which generic solutions struggle to do.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s still early days, but the results are promising. We can work better with high volume data sources and can better detect.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-what-are-some-of-the-challenges-you-ve-faced-in-building-ai-models-for-in-house-cybersecurity\">What are some of the challenges you&#8217;ve faced in building AI models for in-house cybersecurity?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>One of the first challenges we encountered was the expertise gap. In cybersecurity, we traditionally don\u2019t have data scientists embedded in our teams. Conversely, the data science teams at our bank, while very skilled \u2013 especially in areas such as fraud detection \u2013 aren\u2019t familiar with the specifics of security data. This divide made collaboration difficult and our security team had to start learning the principles of AI.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another major issue was tooling. Many of the standard tools we use in security, like Microsoft Defender, aren\u2019t designed to handle large datasets or ML. You can\u2019t just run Python or complex queries on these platforms. So, we needed an updated infrastructure to run and train models efficiently, which could handle the scale of data we were working with.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-as-you-re-building-ai-models-internally-how-do-you-handle-ethical-concerns-like-explainability-transparency-and-bias\">As you&#8217;re building AI models internally, how do you handle ethical concerns like explainability, transparency, and bias?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Our analytics teams follow a structured AI Way of Working (WoW)that guides them through every step of model development. The AI WoW ensures AI risk minimization and AI value maximization including ethical considerations. It emphasizes explainability, transparency, and documenting decisions. You can find out why a particular modeling choice was made, even years later.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At Rabobank, we make a Responsible AI building block available for teams. This is designed to be compliant and in control by translating AI related standards, guidelines and frameworks into technical components to embed in all use cases.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-what-advice-would-you-give-an-organization-just-starting-its-ai-cybersecurity-journey\">What advice would you give an organization just starting its AI cybersecurity journey?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>My first piece of advice is to get your data in order. Before you build or even adopt an AI model, you need a clean, consolidated source. Our early modeling efforts were hampered by inconsistent and incomplete datasets.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Secondly, I recommend starting with what\u2019s already available. Don\u2019t try to build everything from scratch. Run experiments with available tools, understand their capabilities and limitations, and build internal expertise along the way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-vivid-cyan-blue-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-b9ed29d730448485eb6abb98dd442434\" id=\"h-building-a-cyber-aware-organization\"><strong>Building a cyber-aware organization<\/strong>:<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-how-do-you-balance-ai-tools-with-skill-development-in-your-team\">How do you balance AI tools with skill development in your team?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>First of all, there is a strong focus on building AI skills, not only in the security organization but in the whole organization. DataWise is a global learning program for all employees. Rapid innovations in data and AI impact our work. Data and AI help us provide excellent customer service, improve efficiency and performance, and make the right decisions. This requires continuous skill development. DataWise supports employees in this development.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Also I\u2019ve experienced that security analysts are fast in learning how to design, build and deploy detection rules and models in a short timeframe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Finally, it\u2019s about focus. AI tools will not replace a security analyst. It will augment their work. This also means you should be careful how to build up AI. The model should be validated since it should do what it\u2019s supposed to do.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:25%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/Semi-conductor-CRI-report-banner.jpg?w=960\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1085386\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>&#8220;AI tools will not replace a security analyst. It will augment their work.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><a id=\"_msocom_1\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-a-big-part-of-cybersecurity-success-depends-on-end-user-behavior-how-do-you-manage-awareness-without-creating-fatigue\">A big part of cybersecurity success depends on end-user behavior. How do you manage awareness without creating fatigue?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>I focus on integrating attention-worthy topics into the daily routines of my users \u2013 or, in my case, colleagues \u2013 without making it feel like a burden. It\u2019s about using small, everyday moments to raise awareness.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Phishing is a great example. We regularly send simulated phishing emails and monitor responses. Instead of following up with long training sessions, we provide micro learnings of one to two minutes to highlight what they could have checked, what they might have done differently, and offer additional resources to those who are&nbsp;interested. It\u2019s all about keeping it simple and accessible, and finding creative approaches to keep them&nbsp;engaged.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-which-trends-do-you-see-shaping-the-future-of-ai-in-cybersecurity\">Which trends do you see shaping the future of AI in cybersecurity?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>One major factor will be talent. Finding people with the right blend of AI and cybersecurity expertise is only going to get tougher. These technologies will need to help teams do more with less.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Education is the foundation. You can have the best tools, but if your people fall for a deep-fake video or phishing attempt, those tools might never come into play. We stress critical thinking, skepticism, and adherence to process. My team works hard to keep everyone aware, not just of existing threats, but also of how they\u2019re&nbsp;evolving.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>From a technical perspective I see a few developments: 1) Identity fraud \u2013 onboarding fake customers, 2) Attacks will be harder to detect, faster and more convincing, and 3) More and better personalization in scams.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>&#8220;Finding people with the right blend of AI and cybersecurity expertise is only going to get tougher.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" 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>Cambodia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CM\" >Cameroon<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CA\" >Canada<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CV\" >Cape Verde<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KY\" >Cayman Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CF\" >Central African Republic<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"TD\" >Chad<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CL\" >Chile<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CN\" >China<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CX\" >Christmas Island<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CC\" >Cocos (Keeling) Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CO\" >Colombia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KM\" >Comoros<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CG\" >Congo<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CD\" >Congo, Democratic Republic<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option 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value=\"GH\" >Ghana<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GI\" >Gibraltar<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GR\" >Greece<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GL\" >Greenland<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GD\" >Grenada<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GP\" >Guadeloupe<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GU\" >Guam<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GT\" >Guatemala<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GG\" >Guernsey<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GN\" >Guinea<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GW\" >Guinea-Bissau<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GY\" >Guyana<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"HT\" >Haiti<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"HM\" >Heard Island &amp; Mcdonald Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"VA\" >Holy See (Vatican City State)<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"HN\" >Honduras<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"HK\" >Hong Kong<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"HU\" >Hungary<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IS\" >Iceland<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IN\" >India<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"ID\" >Indonesia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IR\" >Iran, Islamic Republic Of<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IQ\" >Iraq<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IE\" >Ireland<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IM\" >Isle Of Man<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IL\" >Israel<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IT\" >Italy<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"JM\" >Jamaica<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"JP\" >Japan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"JE\" >Jersey<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"JO\" >Jordan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KZ\" >Kazakhstan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KE\" >Kenya<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KI\" >Kiribati<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KR\" >Korea<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KW\" >Kuwait<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KG\" >Kyrgyzstan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LA\" >Lao People&#039;s Democratic Republic<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LV\" >Latvia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LB\" >Lebanon<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LS\" >Lesotho<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LR\" >Liberia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LY\" >Libyan Arab Jamahiriya<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LI\" >Liechtenstein<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LT\" >Lithuania<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LU\" >Luxembourg<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MO\" >Macao<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MK\" >Macedonia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MG\" >Madagascar<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MW\" >Malawi<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MY\" >Malaysia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MV\" >Maldives<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"ML\" >Mali<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MT\" >Malta<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MH\" >Marshall Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MQ\" >Martinique<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MR\" >Mauritania<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MU\" >Mauritius<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"YT\" >Mayotte<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MX\" >Mexico<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"FM\" >Micronesia, Federated States Of<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MD\" >Moldova<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MC\" >Monaco<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MN\" >Mongolia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"ME\" >Montenegro<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MS\" >Montserrat<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MA\" >Morocco<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MZ\" >Mozambique<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MM\" >Myanmar<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NA\" >Namibia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NR\" >Nauru<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NP\" >Nepal<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NL\" >Netherlands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"AN\" >Netherlands Antilles<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NC\" >New Caledonia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NZ\" >New Zealand<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NI\" >Nicaragua<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NE\" >Niger<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NG\" >Nigeria<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NU\" >Niue<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NF\" >Norfolk Island<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MP\" >Northern Mariana Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NO\" >Norway<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"OM\" >Oman<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PK\" >Pakistan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PW\" >Palau<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PS\" >Palestinian Territory, Occupied<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PA\" >Panama<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PG\" >Papua New Guinea<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PY\" >Paraguay<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PE\" >Peru<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PH\" >Philippines<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PN\" >Pitcairn<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PL\" >Poland<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PT\" >Portugal<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PR\" >Puerto Rico<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"QA\" >Qatar<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"RE\" >Reunion<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"RO\" >Romania<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"RU\" >Russian Federation<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"RW\" >Rwanda<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BL\" >Saint Barthelemy<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SH\" >Saint Helena<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KN\" >Saint Kitts And Nevis<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LC\" >Saint Lucia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MF\" >Saint Martin<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PM\" >Saint Pierre And Miquelon<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"VC\" >Saint Vincent And Grenadines<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"WS\" >Samoa<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SM\" >San Marino<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"ST\" >Sao Tome And Principe<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SA\" >Saudi Arabia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SN\" >Senegal<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"RS\" >Serbia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SC\" >Seychelles<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SL\" >Sierra Leone<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SG\" >Singapore<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SK\" >Slovakia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SI\" >Slovenia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SB\" >Solomon Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SO\" >Somalia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"ZA\" >South Africa<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GS\" >South Georgia And Sandwich Isl.<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"ES\" >Spain<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LK\" >Sri Lanka<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SD\" >Sudan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SR\" >Suriname<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SJ\" >Svalbard And Jan Mayen<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SZ\" >Swaziland<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SE\" >Sweden<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CH\" >Switzerland<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SY\" >Syrian Arab Republic<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"TW\" >Taiwan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"TJ\" >Tajikistan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option 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