{"id":886182,"date":"2025-12-05T09:47:00","date_gmt":"2025-12-05T09:47:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/be-en\/?post_type=research-and-insight&#038;p=886182"},"modified":"2026-03-17T09:49:40","modified_gmt":"2026-03-17T09:49:40","slug":"cloud-realities-season-5","status":"publish","type":"research-and-insight","link":"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/be-en\/insights\/research-library\/cloud-realities-season-5\/","title":{"rendered":"Cloud Realities \u2013 Season 5"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<header class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-hero-reusable header heroReusable  \"><div class=\"header-bgs\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Cloud-realities-podcast.png?w=2880&amp;quality=70 1x, https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Cloud-realities-podcast.png?w=2880&amp;quality=70 2x\" media=\"(min-width: 1500px)\"\/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Cloud-realities-podcast.png?w=1440&amp;quality=70 1x, https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Cloud-realities-podcast.png?w=2880&amp;quality=70 2x\" media=\"(min-width: 992px)\"\/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Cloud-realities-podcast.png?w=1024&amp;quality=70 1x, https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Cloud-realities-podcast.png?w=1024&amp;quality=70 2x\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\"\/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Cloud-realities-podcast.png?w=768&amp;quality=70 1x, https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Cloud-realities-podcast.png?w=768&amp;quality=70 2x\" media=\"(min-width: 0)\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Cloud-realities-podcast.png\" class=\"header-img header-img-d\" alt=\"\" style=\"object-fit:cover;object-position:50% 50%\" loading=\"eager\"\/><\/picture><\/div><div class=\"heroPictureCardHeaderShape\"><\/div><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"box\"><div class=\"boxTagWrapper\"><div class=\"tagInfo\"><div><span class=\"box-tag\">Cloud<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"box-title\"><h1 data-maxlength=\"34\">Cloud Realities \u2013 Season 5<\/h1><\/div><div class=\"inner-row-insight download-btn\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/header>\n\n\n\n<section class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-group undefined section section--article-content\"><div class=\"article-main-content\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"grid-container\"><div class=\"col-12 col-md-2\"><nav class=\"article-social\"><ul class=\"social-nav\"><li class=\"ip-order-fb\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer\/sharer.php?u=https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/insights\/research-library\/cloud-realities-podcast\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" title=\"opens in a new window\"><i aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"icon-fb\"><\/i><span class=\"sr-only\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><\/li><li class=\"ip-order-tw\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?url=https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/insights\/research-library\/cloud-realities-podcast\/&amp;text=Cloud%20realities%20podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" title=\"opens in a new window\"><i aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"icon-tw\"><\/i><span class=\"sr-only\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><\/li><li class=\"ip-order-li\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/shareArticle?url=https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/insights\/research-library\/cloud-realities-podcast\/&amp;text=Cloud%20realities%20podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" title=\"opens in a new window\"><i aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"icon-li\"><\/i><span class=\"sr-only\">Linkedin<\/span><\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div><div><div class=\"article-text article-quote-text\">\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-exploring-both-the-practical-realities-and-the-exciting-alternative-realities-that-can-be-unleashed-through-cloud-driven-transformation-nbsp-and-cloud-native-living-and-nbsp-working\">Exploring both the practical realities and the exciting alternative realities that can be unleashed through cloud-driven transformation&nbsp;and cloud-native living and&nbsp;working.<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>In each episode, our hosts&nbsp;Dave Chapman, Esmee van de Giessen and Rob Kernahan&nbsp;talk to cloud leaders and practitioners to understand how previously untapped business value&nbsp;can be released, how&nbsp;to deal&nbsp;with the challenges&nbsp;and risks that&nbsp;come&nbsp;with&nbsp;bold&nbsp;ventures, and how human experience factors into all of this. They cover topics ranging from smart industry, customer experience, and sustainability, to Gen AI and data, cyber, cost, leadership, talent and, of course, tech.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-listen-in-and-subscribe-on-the-following-channels\">Listen in and subscribe on the following channels:<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-not-stacked-on-mobile is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-center is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full is-style-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/music.amazon.com\/podcasts\/7dc49c3d-66b1-4a86-b4db-742ceb9e330d\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Amazon-music.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-941801\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column 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size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/castbox.fm\/vic\/1655138563\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Castbox.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-941811\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section>\n\n\n\n<section class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-group undefined section section--article-content\"><div class=\"article-main-content\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"grid-container\"><div><div class=\"article-text article-quote-text\">\n<section class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-how-we-do-it section section--howwedoit block-howwedoit\"><div class=\"container\"><div><div class=\"row\"><div class=\"content-title col-12 col-md-8\"><h2 data-maxlength=\"72\" class=\"expandable-heading-tag\">Season 5: Explore all episodes<\/h2><\/div><\/div><div class=\"row\"><div class=\"col-12 col-md-8\"><p><\/p><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"row\"><div class=\"col-12 col-md-8\"><div class=\"section-content\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 188 \u2013 CR118: Christmas special! Return to the simulation with Anders Indset, Author &amp; Philosopher | December 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>For some special Christmas food for thought, we focus on the far reaches of our \u201cRealities\u201d.&nbsp; Here on the show we believe that interventional, courageous leadership combined with cloud can change the future reality of a business or human.&nbsp; But, what is real? What is not? And does it matter?!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We look at the thinking currently happening in the space of the Simulation Hypothesis, which suggests that we likely live in a computer simulation, and ask how it can be applied to solve \u201cbetter problems\u201d and improve our innovation ambition.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Anders Indset, Philosopher, Author and renowned speaker to get his insights following some recent research he has been participating in, in this field, as well as his thinking on The Quantum Economy<\/p>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 187 \u2013 CRSP08: State of AI 2025 pt.3: AI Unplugged &#8211; from data to sovereign intelligence with Johanna Hutchinson, BAE Systems | December 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>In this last episode of the special AI mini-series, we now explore the human side of transformation, where technology meets purpose and people remain at the center. From future jobs and critical thinking to working with C-level leaders, how human intervention and high-quality data drive success in an AI-powered world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This week Dave, Esmee, Rob sit down with Johanna Hutchinson, CDO at BAE systems about why data matters, the rise of Sovereign AI, and the skills shaping the intelligence age.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:55 Introduction of Johanna Hutchinson<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>02:09 Explaining the State of AI mini-series with Craig<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>06:01 Conversation with Johanna<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>34:20 Weaving today\u2019s data tapestries with AI<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>40:20 Going to a rave<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/johanna-hutchinson-95b95568\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Johanna Hutchinson<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Co-host:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/craigsuckling\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Craig Suckling<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/4FXy8ZdY2JFF4y81j3n3m2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 186 \u2013 CR117 Redesigning industries with AI with Scott Hanselman, Microsoft | December 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>AI is transforming software development\u2014redefining roles, creativity, and community, while challenging developers to embrace ambiguity, orchestrate specialized agents, and stay human through empathy and curiosity. Will AI make developers more creative, or will we forget how the machine really works under the hood?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This week Dave, Esmee , Rob sit down with Scott Hanselman, VP Developer Community at Microsoft for a wildly energetic, deeply human, and brilliantly practical conversation about how AI is reshaping software development and what that means for creativity, careers, and all industries.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;<strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:30 \u2013 Scott Hanselman introduced as a special guest from Microsoft Ignite 2025.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>02:16 \u2013 Scott discusses how AI is fundamentally redesigning all industries.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>09:50 \u2013 Don\u2019t anthropomorphize AI, I want the computer from Star Trek!<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>15:30 \u2013 Delegation: contrasting the roles of humans and agents.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>18:30 \u2013 The importance of supporting early career growth and learning.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>26:30 \u2013 Why specificity matters in AI and coding.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>35:30 \u2013 Making AI delightful and fun.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>45:30 \u2013 Always put humans first in AI development.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>46:00 \u2013 Each morning I think about lunch.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hanselman.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Scott Hanselman<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Related reading:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hanselman.com\/podcasts\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The Hansel minutes Podcast: with over 1025 podcasts!<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/CR117-Redesigning-industries-with-AI-with-Scott-Hanselman-Microsoft.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/2gKYtt0Vjp11DqgLdyEyAh\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 185 \u2013 CRLIVE58 AWS re:Invent 2025: European Digital Sovereign Futures with Mustafa Isik, AWS + Team reflections on re:Invent 2025 | December 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Live from the iconic Venetian in Las Vegas, we\u2019re rolling out an exclusive mini-series dedicated to AWS re:Invent 2025!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tune in as we sit down with AWS visionaries and take the pulse of the industry on everything shaping the future, Cloud innovation, GenAI, Agents, and the hottest trends making waves.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And because what happens in Vegas doesn\u2019t always stay in Vegas, we\u2019ll spill the latest news, insider buzz, and a little Strip-side gossip to keep things spicy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dave, Esmee, and Rob wrap up their final AWS re:Invent 2025 conversation with Mustafa Isik, Chief Technologist for Sovereignty at AWS, discussing digital sovereignty and its growing regional importance. They close the event with reflections from Matthew Gillard, co-founder of Cuidado Connect and co-host of Cloud Dialogues, along with insights from the team.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>01:29 \u2013 Meet Mustafa Isik and hear his keynote highlights<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>04:05 \u2013 In-depth discussion with Mustafa<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>31:35 \u2013 Exploring the line between science fiction and science fact<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>36:26 \u2013 Introduction to Matthew Gillard<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>38:55 \u2013 Matt shares his re:Invent reflections from a developer\u2019s perspective<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>52:12 \u2013 The team looks back on re:Invent 2025<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>1:00:02 \u2013 The team\u2019s take on science fiction versus science fact<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guests:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/codesurgeon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Mustafa Isik<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/mattgillard\/%C2%A0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Matt Gillard<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Related reading:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/cloud-dialogues.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/cloud-dialogues.com<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><a class=\"more2\" aria-label=\"Listen in link\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/7bebD9Gj6z2VGJ3vAAWvRP\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Opens in a new window\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Listen in<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 184 \u2013 CRLIVE57 AWS re:Invent 2025: Financial Renovation with Scott Mullins, AWS | December 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Live from the iconic Venetian in Las Vegas, we\u2019re rolling out an exclusive mini-series dedicated to AWS re:Invent 2025!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tune in as we sit down with AWS visionaries and take the pulse of the industry on everything shaping the future, Cloud innovation, GenAI, Agents, and the hottest trends making waves.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And because what happens in Vegas doesn\u2019t always stay in Vegas, we\u2019ll spill the latest news, insider buzz, and a little Strip-side gossip to keep things spicy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dave, Esmee, and Rob continue their discussion with Scott Mullins, MD Financial Services at AWS, on how the sector is rapidly embracing cloud, AI, automation, and real-time data to drive agility and stay compliant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:30 \u2013 Meet Scott Mullins and hear about his re:Invent experience<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>05:00 \u2013 Deep dive conversation with Scott<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>25:56 \u2013 Fiiction with&nbsp;<em>The Jetsons<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/escottmullins\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Scott Mullins<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><a class=\"more2\" aria-label=\"Listen in link\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/7IMF5GHA05FfWMPgfmjgwe\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Opens in a new window\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Listen in<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 183 \u2013 CRLIVE56 AWS re:Invent 2025: Driving Innovation in Automotive and Energy &amp; Utilities with Rob Boetticher and Howard Gefen, AWS | December 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Live from the iconic Venetian in Las Vegas, we\u2019re rolling out an exclusive mini-series dedicated to AWS re:Invent 2025!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tune in as we sit down with AWS visionaries and take the pulse of the industry on everything shaping the future, Cloud innovation, GenAI, Agents, and the hottest trends making waves.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And because what happens in Vegas doesn\u2019t always stay in Vegas, we\u2019ll spill the latest news, insider buzz, and a little Strip-side gossip to keep things spicy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dave, Esmee, and Rob bring a double-feature conversation on industry innovation\u2014first with Rob Boetticher, Global Technology Leader for Automotive and Manufacturing, followed by Howard Gefen, GM of the Energy and Utilities Industry Business Unit at AWS.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:42 \u2013 Rob Boetticher &amp; Howard Gefen introduced<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>02:00 \u2013 Rob\u2019s keynote highlights<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>07:52 \u2013&nbsp; The future of automotive innovation with Rob<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>23:32 \u2013 Tech fiction examples<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>25:59 \u2013 Howard Gefen introduced<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>28:00 \u2013 Howard\u2019s keynote highlights<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>31:04 \u2013 Howard on the future of Energy and Utilities<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>50:14 \u2013 Tech fiction examples<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/robert-boetticher\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Rob Boetticher<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/hgefen\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Howard Gefen<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/1I0ienzLBY8RjyhQ0hbGUJ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 182 \u2013 CRLIVE55 AWS re:Invent 2025: re:Accelerating Europe with Tanuja Randery, AWS | December 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Live from the iconic Venetian in Las Vegas, we\u2019re rolling out an exclusive mini-series dedicated to AWS re:Invent 2025!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tune in as we sit down with AWS visionaries and take the pulse of the industry on everything shaping the future, Cloud innovation, GenAI, Agents, and the hottest trends making waves.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And because what happens in Vegas doesn\u2019t always stay in Vegas, we\u2019ll spill the latest news, insider buzz, and a little Strip-side gossip to keep things spicy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dave, Esmee, and Rob kick off their conversation with Tanuja Randery, Managing Director for Europe, the Middle East &amp; Africa (EMEA), diving into cloud innovation and the call to re:Accelerate Europe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:49 \u2013 Introduction to Tanuja Randery<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>03:29 \u2013 Keynote highlights with Tanuja and a deep-dive conversation<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>31:00 \u2013 Imaginary tech and Star Trek<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/tanuja-randery\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Tanuja Randery<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/4ZO0NRfgn2ElsCosPQhCtP\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 181 \u2013 CRLIVE54 AWS re:invent 2025: Making it real in Industries with Tim Murnin, AWS | December 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Live from the iconic Venetian in Las Vegas, we\u2019re rolling out an exclusive mini-series dedicated to AWS re:Invent 2025!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tune in as we sit down with AWS visionaries and take the pulse of the industry on everything shaping the future, Cloud innovation, GenAI, Agents, and the hottest trends making waves.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And because what happens in Vegas doesn\u2019t always stay in Vegas, we\u2019ll spill the latest news, insider buzz, and a little Strip-side gossip to keep things spicy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dave, Esmee, and Rob continue their conversation with Tim Murnin, Head of Industry &amp; Partner Strategy at AWS, exploring the evolving role of the CIO, adoption delays, and how trends vary across different sectors.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:36 \u2013 Welcome back with Tim Murnin and the team\u2019s highlights from the AWS re:Invent 2025 keynote<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>08:04 \u2013 In-depth conversation with Tim, exploring key insights<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>32:05 \u2013 Where fact meets fiction, including a look at the flying car<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/timmurnin\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Tim Murnin<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/5e71MHvHdtvmM4sWRxkvs6\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 180 \u2013 CRLIVE53 AWS re:invent 2025: Driving Cloud and AI success through collaboration with Chandra Pinapala, AWS | December 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Live from the iconic Venetian in Las Vegas, we\u2019re rolling out an exclusive mini-series dedicated to AWS re:Invent 2025!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tune in as we sit down with AWS visionaries and take the pulse of the industry on everything shaping the future, Cloud innovation, GenAI, Agents, and the hottest trends making waves. And because what happens in Vegas doesn\u2019t always stay in Vegas, we\u2019ll spill the latest news, insider buzz, and a little Strip-side gossip to keep things spicy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dave, Esmee, and Rob start their conversation with Chandra Pinapala, Director Global Strategic Partners, to explore why strong partnerships are essential for success in Cloud and AI.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:40 \u2013 Back in Las Vegas with highlights from the AWS re:Invent 2025 keynote<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>12:07 \u2013 Meet Chandra Pinapala and dive deep into the conversation<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>35:10 \u2013 A playful leap into the world of fiction<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/chandrapinapala\/\">Chandra Pinapala<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/71tkE1GzKQVhKL1cJABig3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\"><strong>Episode 179 \u2013 CR116: Unlocking Cloud for critical missions with Danny Polaine, Thales | November 2025<\/strong><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Accelerating cloud adoption to drive innovation across domains like space, identity, and naval systems presents unique challenges. Success depends on aligning organizational culture, governance, financial models, and regulatory frameworks to enable collaboration, scalability, and software-defined capabilities.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob speak with Danny Polaine, Chief Information Officer at Thales, about the strategic shift to cloud technologies in a high-security sector like defense and the unique challenges that come with it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:52 \u2013 Introduction to Danny Polaine<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>03:35 \u2013 Rob is confused about the AI privacy dilemma<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>07:40 \u2013 Exploring tech in high-security sectors with Danny<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>35:34 \u2013 The biggest challenge isn\u2019t tech, it\u2019s people adapting to new ways of working<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>44:55 \u2013 Reflections on the CIO role and a fun story about singing waiters at a wedding<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/danny-polaine-5713454\/?originalSubdomain=uk%C2%A0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Danny Polaine<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR116-Unlocking-Cloud-for-critical-missions-with-Danny-Polaine-Thales.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/2pM1UXefgeLY25FZIIgb7Q\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 178 \u2013 CRLIVE52 Microsoft Ignite 2025: Scaling responsible AI agents with Yina Arenas from Microsoft \u2013 Plus Team Ignite 2025 Reflections | November 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Hello San Francisco &#8211; we&#8217;re arrived for Microsoft Ignite 2025!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The #CloudRealities podcast team has landed this week in San Francisco, we&#8217;re bringing you the best updates right from the heart of the event. Join us to connect AI at scale, cloud modernization, and secure innovation\u2014empowering organizations to become AI-first.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Plus, we&#8217;ll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dave, Esmee, and Rob wrap up their Ignite 2025 series with Yina Arenas, CVP of Microsoft Foundry, to discuss why Foundry is the go-to choice for enterprises and how it champions responsible development and innovation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:40 \u2013 Introduction to Yina Arenas<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>01:14 \u2013 How the team is doing, keynote highlights, and insights from the Expo floor<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>02:50 \u2013 Deep dive with Yina on the evolution of Cloud Foundry<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>29:24 \u2013 Favourite IT-themed movie, human interaction, and our society<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>31:56 \u2013 Personal (and slightly juicy) reflections on the week<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>37:30 \u2013 Team reflections on Ignite 2025, including an executive summary per guest and appreciation for Dennis Hansen<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>50:54 \u2013 The team\u2019s favorite IT-themed movies<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>59:30 \u2013 Personal favorite restaurant<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/yinaa\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Yina Arenas<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/15FyaEkZmUk1MOlrYYBcdp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 177 \u2013 CRLIVE51 Microsoft Ignite 2025: Undercover Cloud with Alistair Speirs, Microsoft | November 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Hello San Francisco &#8211; we&#8217;re arrived for Microsoft Ignite 2025!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The #CloudRealities podcast team has landed this week in San Francisco, we&#8217;re bringing you the best updates right from the heart of the event. Join us to connect AI at scale, cloud modernization, and secure innovation\u2014empowering organizations to become AI-first.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Plus, we&#8217;ll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dave, Esmee, and Rob continue their conversation with Alistair Speirs, GM of Global Infrastructure for Microsoft\u2019s Azure Business Group, exploring how to build and scale the AI and Cloud datacenters of the future worldwide\u2014while also addressing sovereignty requirements.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:40 \u2013 Introduction to Alistair Speirs<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>04:42 \u2013 Keynote highlights and Expo floor insights<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>06:50 \u2013 Deep dive conversation with Alistair<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>36:36 \u2013 Favorite IT-themed movie, using your brain as compute storage, and why people still matter<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/alistair\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Alistair Speirs<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--1\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/2qCLs5LfiNMQgbqozmOVCt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\"><strong>Episode 176 \u2013 CRLIVE50 Microsoft Ignite 2025: Innovating at the frontier with John Link, Microsoft | November 2025<\/strong><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Hello San Francisco &#8211; we&#8217;re arrived for Microsoft Ignite 2025!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The #CloudRealities podcast team has landed this week in San Francisco, we&#8217;re bringing you the best updates right from the heart of the event. Join us to connect AI at scale, cloud modernization, and secure innovation\u2014empowering organizations to become AI-first.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Plus, we&#8217;ll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dave, Esmee and Rob, continue their discussion with John Link, Partner Product Manager at Microsoft, exploring Frontier organizations and how AI and quantum are reshaping R&amp;D, all within the context of Microsoft Discovery.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:58 \u2013 Introduction to John Link (and some fun food spellings)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>03:55 \u2013 Keynote highlights and Expo floor insights<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>05:53 \u2013 Deep dive conversation with John<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>24:14 \u2013 Favorite IT-themed movie, thoughts on brain implants, and the simulation theory<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/johnmlink\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">John Link<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--2\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/6SYjCRXqOInc9tkS930gXM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\"><strong>Episode 175 \u2013 CRLIVE49 Microsoft Ignite 2025: Safe and responsible agentic implementation with Rob Lefferts, Microsoft | November 2025<\/strong><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Hello San Francisco &#8211; we&#8217;re arrived for Microsoft Ignite 2025!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The #CloudRealities podcast team has landed this week in San Francisco, we&#8217;re bringing you the best updates right from the heart of the event. Join us to connect AI at scale, cloud modernization, and secure innovation\u2014empowering organizations to become AI-first.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Plus, we&#8217;ll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dave and Esmee continue their conversation with Rob Lefferts, CVP Threat Protection about the key security announcements and explore how we leverage agents to protect, defend, and respond at AI speed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:50 \u2013 Introduction to Rob Lefferts<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>01:40 \u2013 Keynote highlights and insights from the Expo floor<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>03:19 \u2013 In-depth conversation with Rob on why security is critical in the era of AI<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>22:53 \u2013 Favorite IT-themed movie linked to the Asimov\u2019s principles and the Louvre password<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/rob-lefferts\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Rob Lefferts<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--3\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/5YF5pa4MsbMiomRwRMskUX\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\"><strong>Episode 174 \u2013 CRLIVE48 Microsoft Ignite 2025: From business applications to AI business solutions with Jonathan Hunt | November 2025<\/strong><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Hello San Francisco &#8211; we&#8217;re arrived for Microsoft Ignite 2025!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The #CloudRealities podcast team has landed this week in San Francisco, we&#8217;re bringing you the best updates right from the heart of the event. Join us to connect AI at scale, cloud modernization, and secure innovation\u2014empowering organizations to become AI-first. Plus, we&#8217;ll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dave, Esmee, and Rob continue their conversation with Jonathan Hunt, CVP of Business Solutions at Microsoft, diving into the differences between AI-driven business solutions and traditional business applications, and exploring how customers can learn where\u2014and how\u2014to get started with AI.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:35 \u2013 Introduction and conversation with Jonathan Hunt, plus updates from the event floor<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>22:15 \u2013 Favorite IT-themed movie starring Arnold Schwarzenegger<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jonathan-hunt1\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Jonathan Hunt<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--4\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/5YF5pa4MsbMiomRwRMskUX\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 173 \u2013 CRLIVE47 Microsoft Ignite 2025: The evolution and future of Co-pilot(s) with Rob Cromwell, Microsoft | November 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Hello San Francisco &#8211; we&#8217;re arrived for Microsoft Ignite 2025!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The #CloudRealities podcast team has landed this week in San Francisco, we&#8217;re bringing you the best updates right from the heart of the event. Join us to connect AI at scale, cloud modernization, and secure innovation\u2014empowering organizations to become AI-first.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Plus, we&#8217;ll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dave, Esmee and Rob kick off with Rob Cromwell, CVP of Engineering and explore the exciting evolution of Copilot and share insights on what\u2019s coming next.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:50 \u2013 Back in San Francisco<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>02:45 \u2013 Highlights from the first keynote<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>11:08 \u2013 Intro and chat with Rob Cromwell<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>30:40 \u2013 Tackling tech and authentication challenges<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>32:28 \u2013 Favorite IT-related film and a glimpse into the near future<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/robcromwell\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Rob Cromwell<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--5\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/6yguqBHW21GSv8JmNwwr5m\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 172 \u2013 CR115: Power of data in complex industries with Chris Carter, BAE Systems | November 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Digital intelligence is reshaping how organizations work, and success depends on integrating multiple domains, using real-time analytics, and ensuring strong cyber protections as data grows and risks increase<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob talk with Chris Carter, Director &#8211; Key Accounts and Australia at BAE Systems Digital Intelligence, to explore the fast-moving world of digital intelligence, data, and analytics and dive into the complexities of the work, how rapidly the landscape is evolving, and the major challenges organizations face today.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:41 Introduction of Chris Carter<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>03:00 Rob is confused by the idea of renting out brain capacity for compute power<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>07:13 Chris discusses the fusion of data, AI, and human judgment in complex environments<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>34:30 Are we giving enough attention to human cognitive capacity?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>42:34 Rugby tickets with the family<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/chriscarter3\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Chris Carter<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--6\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR115-Power-of-data-in-complex-industries-with-Chris-Carter-BAE-Systems.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--7\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/755TZcVaGE9pgFjf3vEXFG\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\"><strong>Episode 171 \u2013 CRSP07: State of AI 2025 pt.2 &#8211; For the love of data with Indhira Mani, Intact Insurance\u00a0| November 2025<\/strong><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>In this second episode of the special AI mini-series, we now explore the human side of transformation, where technology meets purpose and people remain at the center. From future jobs and critical thinking to working with C-level leaders, how human intervention and high-quality data drive success in an AI-powered world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob talk to Indhira Mani, CDO at Intact Insurance UK, about the Love for data, insights on leadership, resilience, and preparing the next generation for what\u2019s next.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>01:30 Introduction of Indhira Mani and Scotch whisky<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>05:45 Explaining the State of AI mini-series with Craig<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>07:12 Conversation with Indi about her boyfriend called Data<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>38:33 Umbrella Sharing in Japan and the trust on AI<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>45:15 The British Insurance Award and Women in Tech finalist&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/indhira-mani-data\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Indhira Mani<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Co-host:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/craigsuckling\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Craig Suckling<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--8\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR115-For-the-love-of-data-with-Indhira-Mani-RSA-Insurance.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--9\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/0KuN4jGJ7VURQrSSzdNfaC\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\"><strong>Episode 170 \u2013 CR114: Why human experience matters more than ever with Kevin Magee, All human\u00a0| October 2025<\/strong><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Technology can scale almost everything\u2014except human experience.&nbsp;In a world driven by efficiency, what does it mean to design for how people truly feel? It&#8217;s about transforming user interactions into ongoing insight and innovation, rooted in empathy and understanding.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Kevin Magee, Chief Technology Officer at All human about helping organizations transform customer experiences with a focus on design, engineering, and what is called &#8220;digital performance.&#8221;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:41 Introduction of Kevin Magee with Guinness or sparkling water?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>03:23 Rob wonders, is Apple really opening up its ecosystem?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>11:40 Deep dive with Kevin into design, engineering, and digital performance<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>36:30 How tools built for one purpose can transform entire systems<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>48:35 Weekend city breaks and pursuing a master\u2019s in psychology<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/kevinmagee\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Kevin Magee<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--10\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR114-Why-human-experience-matters-more-than-ever-with-Kevin-Magee-Allhuman.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--11\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/6uCWWO12cEt3khLayqQJUZ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 169 \u2013 CR113: Bridging the digital skills gap in a complex world with Mike Nayler, AWS\u00a0| October 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>The skills we teach today will decide the world we live in tomorrow but the digital skills gap is something we&#8217;ve been dealing with for decades, but it\u2019s growing faster than ever, it starts with kids and stretches all the way into late IT careers, and now we&#8217;re finally taking a more connected, lifelong approach to closing it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob speak with Mike Nayler, Director, National Security, Defense &amp; Public Safety at AWS about the digital skills gap and explore how tech companies can help close it.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:45 Introduction of Mike Nayler and the pros and cons of enterprise architects, based on a survey<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>03:30 Rob is confused about AI replacing prompt engineers<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>07:55 Conversation with Mike on the digital skills gap<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>25:15 The real gap is between institutions and the people they aim to serve<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>33:24 Mike heading back to school and writing essays again<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/nayler\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Mike Nayler<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--12\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR113-Bridging-the-digital-skills-gap-in-a-complex-world-with-Mike-Nayler-AWS.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--13\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/4bUvaBQNkHWfi8qaydEHbL\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 168 \u2013 CR112: Evolving role of AI across industries, AI mini-series part 1 [AAA team podcast]\u00a0| October 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>In &#8216;Access All Areas&#8217; shows we go behind the scenes with the crew and their friends as they dive into complex challenges that organisations face\u2014sometimes getting a little messy along the way.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We\u2019re launching a special AI mini-series exploring how artificial intelligence is reshaping industries. Each episode dives into key themes like scaling AI, societal impact, leadership, sustainability, and the challenges ahead. Join us for fresh insights and bold conversations on the future of intelligent systems.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob kick off the AI mini-series with Craig Suckling, CAIO at Capgemini and co-host of this special edition. The episode is inspired by&nbsp;<em>\u201cRiding the AI Whirlwind,\u201d<\/em>&nbsp;Gartner\u2019s 2025 strategic predictions report, which urges organizations to act boldly on AI\u2019s potential while managing risks like rising costs and privacy concerns&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:40 \u2013 Introduction of Craig Suckling and launch of the AI mini-series<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>02:38 \u2013 Summary of three key insights and strategic recommendations from Gartner\u2019s \u201cRiding the AI Whirlwind\u201d report<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>23:03 \u2013 Strategic planning assumptions: what they mean for business and tech leaders<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>41:40 \u2013 Sam Altman\u2019s top three concerns about the future of AI<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>49:35 \u2013 What key topics remain unaddressed?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>51:00 \u2013 What to expect from the AI mini-series featuring industry leaders<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Co-Hosts:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/craigsuckling\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Craig Suckling<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--14\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR112-Evolving-role-of-AI-across-industries-AI-mini-series-part-1-AAA-team-podcast-.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--15\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/021OFgoOwD7hl7a18vZSB7\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 167 \u2013 CR111: From mission-driven to tech-driven with Ben Sparke, Microsoft\u00a0| October 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>The evolving role of technology in modern defense environments, highlighting innovations in communications, automation, and open-source frameworks. Drawing from personal experience, the conversation emphasizes how real-world conflicts are reshaping how tech is deployed, adopted, and understood across military operations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob speak with Ben Sparke, Enterprise Azure Cloud &amp; AI Specialist for UK Defence at Microsoft, about&nbsp; how his military background informs a human-centered approach to technology in the evolving defence sector\u2014highlighting the shift from mission-driven to tech-driven innovation. &nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:37 \u2013 Introduction of Ben Sparke and face-to-face podcasting<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>02:40 \u2013 Rob gets confused about Digital Twins representing you in court<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>08:15 \u2013 Tech\u2019s evolving role in defence, with Ben&nbsp;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>34:41 \u2013 Why improvisation and human adaptability matter&nbsp;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>43:30 \u2013 Ben\u2019s hundred-mile bike race over the weekend<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/ben-sparke\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Ben Sparke<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--16\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR111-From-mission-driven-to-tech-driven-with-Ben-Sparke-Microsoft.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--17\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/4eAcN0JYq2xIjIIPXJ0vy6\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 166 \u2013 CR110: The genesis of the virtual assistant with Kevin Surace\u00a0| October 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Before Siri had sass and Alexa started judging your music taste, the original virtual assistant was quietly revolutionizing the &#8217;90s\u2014powered by many patents and a whole lot of foresight. Now, as AI goes from buzzword to boss, we ask, will it transform your job, your home\u2026 or just steal your knowledge?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob speak with&nbsp;<strong>Kevin Surace<\/strong>, Futurist, Inventor &amp; &#8220;Father&#8221; of the Virtual Assistant, about exploring the evolution of AI, what the future might hold, and how disruptive innovation can shake up your organization in ways you might not expect. &nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>&nbsp;00:40 \u2013 Introduction of Kevin Surace<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&nbsp;05:12 \u2013 Rob gets confused by Google Maps reviews and selfies<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&nbsp;08:15 \u2013 Deep dive into the evolution of AI with Kevin<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&nbsp;52:00 \u2013 How intelligent agents can help manage digital noise and support mental well-being<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&nbsp;1:07:30 \u2013 Wrapping up the book the&nbsp;<em>Joy Success Cycle<\/em>&nbsp;and heading to a concert&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/ksurace\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Kevin Surace<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--18\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR110-The-genesis-of-the-virtual-assistant-with-Kevin-Surace.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--19\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/23XMkgdNnxLnzJZFw1QAhu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\"><strong>Episode 165 \u2013 CR109: Season 5 Kick Off with Dave, Esmee and Rob\u00a0| September 2025<\/strong><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>We\u2019re back! In this Season 5 premiere, the team reunites after their summer break to kick off an exciting new chapter. Join us as we catch up, share bold predictions for the year ahead, and explore big questions, like whether 2026 will be the year of the autonomous organization. Expect candid reflections, lively discussion, and a sneak peek at what\u2019s coming up this season.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We are very keen this season to establish a feedback loop with listeners, so will be doing shows exploring listener questions and challenges &#8211; something we are really looking forward to.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Please get in touch with us, via LinkedIn, Substack or cloudrealities@capgemini.com, if you have questions or challenges for us, we&#8217;d love to hear from you!<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>&nbsp;00:20 \u2013 We\u2019re back!<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>00:35 \u2013 Catching up on what we did during the summer break<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&nbsp;10:48 \u2013 Planning ahead until Christmas: Microsoft Ignite, AWS re:Invent, an AI mini-series and cool guests<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&nbsp;20:27 \u2013 Tech talk: iPhone 17, deep democracy training, and the human impact of innovation<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&nbsp;32:10 \u2013 Will autonomous organizations powered by agents emerge within 12\u201318 months?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&nbsp;40:45 \u2013 Reflections inspired by Jaws, climbing adventures, and Bruce Springsteen&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--20\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR109-Season-5-Kick-Off-with-Dave-Esmee-and-Rob.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--21\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/7sH0bKfYFWC8xNyrQK7F8i\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\"><strong>Episode 164 \u2013 CR108: Season 5 Trailer, The future just dropped\u00a0| September 2025<\/strong><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Dave, Esmee, and Rob are strapping in for another season of bold, brain-bending conversations\u2014and they\u2019re bringing the flux capacitor with them from Back to the Future.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Season 5 beams in global leaders and innovators who challenge how we think about technology, business, and humanity. From AI disruption to digital sovereignty, from leadership to culture\u2014this season\u2019s guests are ready to shake things up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Our first full episode drops on September 25, but before we hit 88 miles per hour, here\u2019s a quick trailer to set the timeline straight, or at least bend it a little.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--22\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR108-Season-5-Trailer-The-future-just-dropped.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--23\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/1aMxLRBelsc05C9iD10fEb\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer 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touch<\/h4>\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"mf_forms__container \">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<form id=\"mf_form_627823_2567800218\" class=\"mf_form__form row needs-validation\" action=\"\" method=\"post\" enctype=\"multipart\/form-data\" data-nosnippet>\n\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"mf-field-wrapper form-floating col-sm-12\">\n\t\t<select tabindex=\"0\" class=\"mac-form-selects form-control empty\"\n\t\t\tid=\"_mf_627823_4048_1806005196\"\n\t\t\tname=\"_mf_627823_4048\"\n\t\t\trequired\t\t>\n\t\t\t<option value=\"\">Select a value<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Alumni\">Alumni<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Business\">Business<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Career\">Career<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Customer Support\">Customer Support<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Media Relations\">Media Relations<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Others\">Others<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Partner Alliance\">Partner 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Name\" required \/><label for=\"_mf_627823_3448_840528392\" class=\"form-label\">Last Name <span class=\"star-required\">*<\/span><\/label><div class=\"invalid-feedback-frm\" role=\"alert\">Last Name is not valid.<\/div><\/div><div class=\"mf-field-wrapper form-floating col-sm-12\"><input type=\"email\" class=\"form-control\" id=\"_mf_627823_4723_1211971183\" name=\"_mf_627823_4723\" placeholder=\"Email\" required \/><label for=\"_mf_627823_4723_1211971183\" class=\"form-label\">Email <span class=\"star-required\">*<\/span><\/label><div class=\"invalid-feedback-frm\" role=\"alert\">Email is not valid.<\/div><\/div><div class=\"mf-field-wrapper form-floating col-sm-12\"><input type=\"text\" class=\"form-control\" id=\"_mf_627823_7825_4019140445\" name=\"_mf_627823_7825\" placeholder=\"Job Title\" required \/><label for=\"_mf_627823_7825_4019140445\" class=\"form-label\">Job Title <span class=\"star-required\">*<\/span><\/label><div class=\"invalid-feedback-frm\" role=\"alert\">Job Title is not valid.<\/div><\/div><div class=\"mf-field-wrapper form-floating col-sm-12\"><input type=\"text\" pattern=\"^[0-9\\-\\+\\s]+$\"  class=\"form-control\" id=\"_mf_627823_3462_2907669043\" name=\"_mf_627823_3462\" oninput=\"validateInput(this)\" maxlength=\"14\" placeholder=\"Phone\"  \/><label for=\"_mf_627823_3462_2907669043\" class=\"form-label\">Phone (optional)<\/label><\/div><div class=\"mf-field-wrapper form-floating col-sm-12\"><input type=\"text\" class=\"form-control\" id=\"_mf_627823_80_2235394190\" name=\"_mf_627823_80\" placeholder=\"Company \/ Organization\" required \/><label for=\"_mf_627823_80_2235394190\" class=\"form-label\">Company \/ Organization <span class=\"star-required\">*<\/span><\/label><div class=\"invalid-feedback-frm\" role=\"alert\">Company \/ Organization is not valid.<\/div><\/div><div class=\"mf-field-wrapper form-floating col-sm-12\">\n\t\t<select tabindex=\"0\" class=\"mac-form-selects form-control empty\"\n\t\t\tid=\"_mf_627823_2564_4103819996\"\n\t\t\tname=\"_mf_627823_2564\"\n\t\t\trequired\t\t>\n\t\t\t<option value=\"\">Select a value<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Aerospace &amp; Defense\">Aerospace &amp; Defense<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Automotive\">Automotive<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Banking\">Banking<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Chemicals\">Chemicals<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Consumer Products\">Consumer Products<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Distribution &amp; logistics\">Distribution &amp; logistics<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Education &amp; research\">Education &amp; research<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Government\">Government<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"General services\">General services<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Healthcare\">Healthcare<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Insurance\">Insurance<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Industrial Manufacturing\">Industrial Manufacturing<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Life Sciences\">Life Sciences<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Media &amp; Entertainment\">Media &amp; Entertainment<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Natural resources\">Natural resources<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Other Financial Services\">Other Financial Services<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Public Security &amp; Police\">Public Security &amp; Police<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Retail &amp; Wholesale trade\">Retail &amp; Wholesale trade<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Tax &amp; Welfare\">Tax &amp; Welfare<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Travel &amp; Transport\">Travel &amp; Transport<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Technology\">Technology<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Telecoms\">Telecoms<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Utilities\">Utilities<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/select>\n\n\t\t<label for=\"_mf_627823_2564_4103819996\" class=\"form-label\">Industry <span class=\"star-required\">*<\/span><\/label><div class=\"invalid-feedback-frm\" role=\"alert\">Industry is not valid.<\/div><\/div><div class=\"mf-field-wrapper form-floating col-sm-12\">\n\t\t<select tabindex=\"0\" class=\"mac-form-selects form-control empty\"\n\t\t\tid=\"_mf_627823_8283_4087730930\"\n\t\t\tname=\"_mf_627823_8283\"\n\t\t\trequired\t\t>\n\t\t\t<option value=\"\">Select a value<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Assistant\/secretary\">Assistant\/secretary<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CDO\/CMO\">CDO\/CMO<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CEO\">CEO<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CFO\">CFO<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Chairman\/Board of Directors\">Chairman\/Board of Directors<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CIO\/CTO\">CIO\/CTO<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Consultant\/Senior Consultant\">Consultant\/Senior Consultant<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Director\/Principle Consultant\">Director\/Principle Consultant<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"EVP\">EVP<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Manager\">Manager<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Operational\">Operational<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Other CXO\">Other CXO<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Purchaser\">Purchaser<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Senior Manager\/Managing Consultant\">Senior Manager\/Managing Consultant<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SVP\">SVP<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Vice President\">Vice President<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/select>\n\n\t\t<label for=\"_mf_627823_8283_4087730930\" class=\"form-label\">Position\/Level <span class=\"star-required\">*<\/span><\/label><div class=\"invalid-feedback-frm\" role=\"alert\">Position\/Level is not valid.<\/div><\/div>\t\t<div class=\"mf_field mf_field--country mf_field--select floating form-country-select-parent mf-required\">\n\n\t\t\t<label for=\"_mf_627823_6081_3817428516\" class=\"floating__label form-country-select-label\" data-content=\"Country\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"floating-label-content\">Country<\/span>\n\t\t\t<\/label>\n\n\t\t\t<div class=\"select-wrap\">\n<i class=\"icon icon-zodiak-chevron-down\"><\/i>\n\t\t\t\t<select id=\"_mf_627823_6081_3817428516\" class=\"mf_field__input empty mf-country-selectbox form_country_select\" name=\"_mf_627823_6081\" data-validate=\"select\" required>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"\"  selected='selected'>Country<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"AF\" >Afghanistan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"AX\" >Aland Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"AL\" >Albania<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"DZ\" >Algeria<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"AS\" >American Samoa<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"AD\" >Andorra<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"AO\" >Angola<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"AI\" >Anguilla<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"AQ\" >Antarctica<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"AG\" >Antigua And Barbuda<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"AR\" >Argentina<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"AM\" >Armenia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"AW\" >Aruba<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"AU\" >Australia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"AT\" >Austria<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"AZ\" >Azerbaijan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BS\" >Bahamas<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BH\" >Bahrain<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BD\" >Bangladesh<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BB\" >Barbados<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BY\" >Belarus<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BE\" >Belgium<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BZ\" >Belize<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BJ\" >Benin<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BM\" >Bermuda<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BT\" >Bhutan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BO\" >Bolivia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BA\" >Bosnia And Herzegovina<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BW\" >Botswana<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BV\" >Bouvet Island<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BR\" >Brazil<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IO\" >British Indian Ocean Territory<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BN\" >Brunei Darussalam<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BG\" >Bulgaria<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BF\" >Burkina Faso<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BI\" >Burundi<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KH\" >Cambodia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CM\" >Cameroon<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CA\" >Canada<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CV\" >Cape Verde<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KY\" >Cayman Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CF\" >Central African Republic<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"TD\" >Chad<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CL\" >Chile<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CN\" >China<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CX\" >Christmas Island<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CC\" >Cocos (Keeling) Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CO\" >Colombia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KM\" >Comoros<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CG\" >Congo<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CD\" >Congo, Democratic Republic<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CK\" >Cook Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CR\" >Costa Rica<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CI\" >Cote D&#039;Ivoire<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"HR\" >Croatia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CU\" >Cuba<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CY\" >Cyprus<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CZ\" >Czech Republic<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"DK\" >Denmark<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"DJ\" >Djibouti<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"DM\" >Dominica<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"DO\" >Dominican Republic<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"EC\" >Ecuador<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"EG\" >Egypt<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SV\" >El Salvador<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GQ\" >Equatorial Guinea<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"ER\" >Eritrea<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"EE\" >Estonia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"ET\" >Ethiopia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"FK\" >Falkland Islands (Malvinas)<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"FO\" >Faroe Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"FJ\" >Fiji<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"FI\" >Finland<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"FR\" >France<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GF\" >French Guiana<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PF\" >French Polynesia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"TF\" >French Southern Territories<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GA\" >Gabon<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GM\" >Gambia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GE\" >Georgia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"DE\" >Germany<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GH\" >Ghana<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GI\" >Gibraltar<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GR\" >Greece<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GL\" >Greenland<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GD\" >Grenada<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GP\" >Guadeloupe<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GU\" >Guam<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GT\" >Guatemala<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GG\" >Guernsey<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GN\" >Guinea<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GW\" >Guinea-Bissau<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GY\" >Guyana<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"HT\" >Haiti<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"HM\" >Heard Island &amp; Mcdonald Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"VA\" >Holy See (Vatican City State)<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"HN\" >Honduras<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"HK\" >Hong Kong<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"HU\" >Hungary<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IS\" >Iceland<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IN\" >India<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"ID\" >Indonesia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IR\" >Iran, Islamic Republic Of<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IQ\" >Iraq<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IE\" >Ireland<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IM\" >Isle Of Man<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IL\" >Israel<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IT\" >Italy<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"JM\" >Jamaica<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"JP\" >Japan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"JE\" >Jersey<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"JO\" >Jordan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KZ\" >Kazakhstan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KE\" >Kenya<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KI\" >Kiribati<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KR\" >Korea<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KW\" >Kuwait<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KG\" >Kyrgyzstan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LA\" >Lao People&#039;s Democratic Republic<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LV\" >Latvia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LB\" >Lebanon<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LS\" >Lesotho<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LR\" >Liberia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LY\" >Libyan Arab Jamahiriya<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LI\" >Liechtenstein<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LT\" >Lithuania<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LU\" >Luxembourg<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MO\" >Macao<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MK\" >Macedonia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MG\" >Madagascar<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MW\" >Malawi<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MY\" >Malaysia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MV\" >Maldives<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"ML\" >Mali<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MT\" >Malta<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MH\" >Marshall Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MQ\" >Martinique<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MR\" >Mauritania<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MU\" >Mauritius<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"YT\" >Mayotte<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MX\" >Mexico<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"FM\" >Micronesia, Federated States Of<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MD\" >Moldova<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MC\" >Monaco<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MN\" >Mongolia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"ME\" >Montenegro<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MS\" >Montserrat<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MA\" >Morocco<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MZ\" >Mozambique<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MM\" >Myanmar<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NA\" >Namibia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NR\" >Nauru<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NP\" >Nepal<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NL\" >Netherlands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"AN\" >Netherlands Antilles<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NC\" >New Caledonia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NZ\" >New Zealand<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NI\" >Nicaragua<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NE\" >Niger<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NG\" >Nigeria<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NU\" >Niue<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NF\" >Norfolk Island<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MP\" >Northern Mariana Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NO\" >Norway<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"OM\" >Oman<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PK\" >Pakistan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PW\" >Palau<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PS\" >Palestinian Territory, Occupied<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PA\" >Panama<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PG\" >Papua New Guinea<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PY\" >Paraguay<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PE\" >Peru<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PH\" >Philippines<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PN\" >Pitcairn<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PL\" >Poland<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PT\" >Portugal<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PR\" >Puerto Rico<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"QA\" >Qatar<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"RE\" >Reunion<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"RO\" >Romania<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"RU\" >Russian Federation<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"RW\" >Rwanda<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BL\" >Saint Barthelemy<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SH\" >Saint Helena<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KN\" >Saint Kitts And 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