{"id":856336,"date":"2022-12-01T03:12:00","date_gmt":"2022-12-01T03:12:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/be-en\/?post_type=research-and-insight&#038;p=856336"},"modified":"2025-03-27T11:33:19","modified_gmt":"2025-03-27T11:33:19","slug":"cloud-realities-season-1","status":"publish","type":"research-and-insight","link":"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/be-en\/insights\/research-library\/cloud-realities-season-1\/","title":{"rendered":"Cloud realities \u2013 season 1"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<header class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-hero-reusable header heroReusable  \"><div class=\"header-bgs\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Cloud-realities-podcast.jpg?w=2880&amp;quality=70 1x, https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Cloud-realities-podcast.jpg?w=2880&amp;quality=70 2x\" media=\"(min-width: 1500px)\"\/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Cloud-realities-podcast.jpg?w=1440&amp;quality=70 1x, https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Cloud-realities-podcast.jpg?w=2880&amp;quality=70 2x\" media=\"(min-width: 992px)\"\/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Cloud-realities-podcast.jpg?w=1024&amp;quality=70 1x, https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Cloud-realities-podcast.jpg?w=1024&amp;quality=70 2x\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\"\/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Cloud-realities-podcast.jpg?w=768&amp;quality=70 1x, https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Cloud-realities-podcast.jpg?w=768&amp;quality=70 2x\" media=\"(min-width: 0)\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Cloud-realities-podcast.jpg\" class=\"header-img header-img-d\" alt=\"\" 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class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-group undefined section section--article-content\"><div class=\"article-main-content\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row\"><div class=\"col-12 col-md-11 col-lg-10 offset-md-1 offset-lg-1\"><div class=\"article-text article-quote-text\">\n<section class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-how-we-do-it section section--howwedoit block-howwedoit\"><div class=\"container\"><div><div class=\"content-title\"><h2 data-maxlength=\"72\" class=\"expandable-heading-tag\">Season 1: Explore all episodes<\/h2><\/div><p><\/p><\/div><div class=\"section-content\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h4>Episode 13 &#8211; CR006: Christmas special! Are we living in a simulation, and does it matter? with Anders Indset | Dec 22, 2022<\/h4><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--1\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR006-Christmas-Special-Are-we-living-in-a-simulation-and-does-it-matter-with-Anders-Indset.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--2\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/54eB93sgxaRlB6LwHtKUVo?si=7e097a3a74e74cbe\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h4>Episode 12- CR005: Digitalisation in healthcare with Tony Ambrozie | Dec 15, 2022<\/h4><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--3\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR005-Digitalisation-in-healthcare-with-Tony-Ambrozie-Baptist-Health.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--4\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/4adXsGGhaExQeTi4LHOxTO?si=75f1f83b66da48d7\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h4>Episode 11 &#8211; CR004: The digitalisation of marketing with James Trezona | Dec 8, 2022<\/h4><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--5\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR004-The-digitalisation-of-marketing-with-James-Trezona-Rooster-Punk.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--6\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/11p5B8zPPxTOQX8IRfgiWp?si=5da966d7bc4c4b76\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h4>Episode 10 &#8211;  CRLIVE006: AWS re:Invent 2022 summary &amp; analysis with Hemant Sharma | Dec 2, 2022<\/h4><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--7\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CRLIVE006-AWS-reInvent-2022-Summary-Analysis-with-Hemant-Sharma-AWS.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--8\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/7AUwxVoYYTyeHchD5PJ9JI?si=d3d3d11246524a4a\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h4>Episode 9 &#8211; CRLIVE005: Cloud sustainability with Tom Metzeler | Dec 2, 2022<\/h4><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--9\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CRLIVE005-Cloud-sustainability-with-Tom-Metzeler-AWS.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--10\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/2barO9V4pHNAeUwSZ5BQ4a?si=ab3e9c259d594ca0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h4>Episode 8 &#8211; CRLIVE004: Cloud driven business transformation with Jonathan Allen | Dec 1, 2022<\/h4><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--11\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CRLIVE004-Cloud-driven-business-transformation-with-Jonathan-Allen-AWS.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--12\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/6c3L7gOoFYDt8pLm8whh1r?si=8e77cfbb60544b21\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h4>Episode 7 &#8211; CRLIVE003: Lessons from a scale early adopter with Dimitris Perdikou | Dec 1, 2022<\/h4><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--13\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CRLIVE003-Lessons-from-a-scale-early-adopter-with-Dimitris-Perdikou-Home-Office.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--14\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/2fynxhFrTHRfgOSX0mVQBO?si=0678c79285364ef1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h4>Episode 6 &#8211; CRLIVE002: Re-Skilling your enterprise with Phil Le-Brun<br>The team are at AWS re:Invent 2022 for our first live shows! | Nov 30, 2022<\/h4><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--15\"><a 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target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h4>Episode 4 &#8211; CR003: The role of leadership in cloud value creation with Alastair Kidd | Nov 24, 2022<\/h4><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex 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class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--22\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/1FHEbbzjFLYiDbmtFOIEZs?si=a55617610c9a4c69\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h4>Episode 2 \u2013 CR001: Cloud definitions and 2023 trends overview | Nov 24, 2022<\/h4><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div 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trade<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Tax &amp; Welfare\">Tax &amp; Welfare<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Travel &amp; Transport\">Travel &amp; Transport<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Technology\">Technology<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Telecoms\">Telecoms<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Utilities\">Utilities<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/select>\n\n\t\t<label for=\"_mf_627823_2564_3624098256\" class=\"form-label\">Industry <span class=\"star-required\">*<\/span><\/label><div class=\"invalid-feedback-frm\" role=\"alert\">Industry is not valid.<\/div><\/div><div class=\"mf-field-wrapper form-floating col-sm-12\">\n\t\t<select tabindex=\"0\" class=\"mac-form-selects form-control empty\"\n\t\t\tid=\"_mf_627823_8283_3734082332\"\n\t\t\tname=\"_mf_627823_8283\"\n\t\t\trequired\t\t>\n\t\t\t<option value=\"\">Select a value<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"Assistant\/secretary\">Assistant\/secretary<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option 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>Austria<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"AZ\" >Azerbaijan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BS\" >Bahamas<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BH\" >Bahrain<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BD\" >Bangladesh<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BB\" >Barbados<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BY\" >Belarus<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BE\" >Belgium<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BZ\" >Belize<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BJ\" >Benin<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BM\" >Bermuda<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BT\" >Bhutan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BO\" >Bolivia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BA\" >Bosnia And Herzegovina<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BW\" >Botswana<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BV\" >Bouvet Island<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BR\" >Brazil<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IO\" >British Indian Ocean Territory<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BN\" >Brunei Darussalam<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BG\" >Bulgaria<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BF\" >Burkina Faso<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BI\" >Burundi<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KH\" >Cambodia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CM\" >Cameroon<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CA\" >Canada<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CV\" >Cape Verde<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KY\" >Cayman Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CF\" >Central African Republic<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"TD\" >Chad<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CL\" >Chile<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CN\" >China<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CX\" >Christmas Island<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CC\" >Cocos (Keeling) Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CO\" >Colombia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KM\" >Comoros<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CG\" >Congo<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CD\" >Congo, Democratic Republic<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CK\" >Cook Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CR\" >Costa Rica<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CI\" >Cote D&#039;Ivoire<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"HR\" >Croatia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CU\" >Cuba<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CY\" >Cyprus<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"CZ\" >Czech Republic<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"DK\" >Denmark<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"DJ\" >Djibouti<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"DM\" >Dominica<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"DO\" >Dominican Republic<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"EC\" >Ecuador<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"EG\" >Egypt<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SV\" >El Salvador<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GQ\" >Equatorial Guinea<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"ER\" >Eritrea<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"EE\" >Estonia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"ET\" >Ethiopia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"FK\" >Falkland Islands (Malvinas)<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"FO\" >Faroe Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"FJ\" >Fiji<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"FI\" >Finland<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"FR\" >France<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GF\" >French Guiana<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PF\" >French Polynesia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"TF\" >French Southern Territories<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GA\" >Gabon<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GM\" >Gambia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GE\" >Georgia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"DE\" >Germany<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GH\" >Ghana<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GI\" >Gibraltar<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GR\" >Greece<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GL\" >Greenland<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GD\" >Grenada<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GP\" >Guadeloupe<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GU\" >Guam<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GT\" >Guatemala<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GG\" >Guernsey<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GN\" >Guinea<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GW\" >Guinea-Bissau<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"GY\" >Guyana<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"HT\" >Haiti<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"HM\" >Heard Island &amp; Mcdonald Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"VA\" >Holy See (Vatican City State)<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"HN\" >Honduras<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"HK\" >Hong Kong<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"HU\" >Hungary<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IS\" >Iceland<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IN\" >India<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"ID\" >Indonesia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IR\" >Iran, Islamic Republic Of<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IQ\" >Iraq<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IE\" >Ireland<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IM\" >Isle Of Man<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IL\" >Israel<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"IT\" >Italy<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"JM\" >Jamaica<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"JP\" >Japan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"JE\" >Jersey<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"JO\" >Jordan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KZ\" >Kazakhstan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KE\" >Kenya<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KI\" >Kiribati<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KR\" >Korea<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KW\" >Kuwait<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KG\" >Kyrgyzstan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LA\" >Lao People&#039;s Democratic Republic<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LV\" >Latvia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LB\" >Lebanon<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LS\" >Lesotho<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LR\" >Liberia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LY\" >Libyan Arab Jamahiriya<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LI\" >Liechtenstein<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LT\" >Lithuania<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LU\" >Luxembourg<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MO\" >Macao<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MK\" >Macedonia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MG\" >Madagascar<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MW\" >Malawi<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MY\" >Malaysia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MV\" >Maldives<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"ML\" >Mali<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MT\" >Malta<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MH\" >Marshall Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MQ\" >Martinique<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MR\" >Mauritania<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MU\" >Mauritius<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"YT\" >Mayotte<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MX\" >Mexico<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"FM\" >Micronesia, Federated States Of<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MD\" >Moldova<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MC\" >Monaco<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MN\" >Mongolia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"ME\" >Montenegro<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MS\" >Montserrat<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MA\" >Morocco<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MZ\" >Mozambique<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MM\" >Myanmar<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NA\" >Namibia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NR\" >Nauru<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NP\" >Nepal<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NL\" >Netherlands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"AN\" >Netherlands Antilles<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NC\" >New Caledonia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NZ\" >New Zealand<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NI\" >Nicaragua<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NE\" >Niger<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NG\" >Nigeria<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NU\" >Niue<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NF\" >Norfolk Island<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MP\" >Northern Mariana Islands<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"NO\" >Norway<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"OM\" >Oman<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PK\" >Pakistan<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PW\" >Palau<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PS\" >Palestinian Territory, Occupied<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PA\" >Panama<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PG\" >Papua New Guinea<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PY\" >Paraguay<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PE\" >Peru<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PH\" >Philippines<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PN\" >Pitcairn<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PL\" >Poland<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PT\" >Portugal<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PR\" >Puerto Rico<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"QA\" >Qatar<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"RE\" >Reunion<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"RO\" >Romania<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"RU\" >Russian Federation<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"RW\" >Rwanda<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"BL\" >Saint Barthelemy<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SH\" >Saint Helena<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"KN\" >Saint Kitts And Nevis<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"LC\" >Saint Lucia<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"MF\" >Saint Martin<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"PM\" >Saint Pierre And Miquelon<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"VC\" >Saint Vincent And Grenadines<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"WS\" >Samoa<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SM\" >San Marino<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"ST\" >Sao Tome And Principe<\/option>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<option value=\"SA\" >Saudi 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