{"id":515894,"date":"2025-09-18T07:00:00","date_gmt":"2023-12-05T12:25:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/au-en\/?post_type=research-and-insight&#038;p=515894"},"modified":"2025-12-04T10:15:05","modified_gmt":"2025-12-04T10:15:05","slug":"cloud-realities-podcast","status":"publish","type":"research-and-insight","link":"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/au-en\/insights\/research-library\/cloud-realities-podcast\/","title":{"rendered":"Cloud Realities \u2013 the podcast series"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<header class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-hero-reusable header heroReusable  \"><div class=\"header-bgs\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Cloud-realities-podcast.png?w=2880&amp;quality=70 1x, https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Cloud-realities-podcast.png?w=2880&amp;quality=70 2x\" media=\"(min-width: 1500px)\"\/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Cloud-realities-podcast.png?w=1440&amp;quality=70 1x, https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Cloud-realities-podcast.png?w=2880&amp;quality=70 2x\" media=\"(min-width: 992px)\"\/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Cloud-realities-podcast.png?w=1024&amp;quality=70 1x, https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Cloud-realities-podcast.png?w=1024&amp;quality=70 2x\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\"\/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Cloud-realities-podcast.png?w=768&amp;quality=70 1x, https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Cloud-realities-podcast.png?w=768&amp;quality=70 2x\" media=\"(min-width: 0)\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Cloud-realities-podcast.png\" class=\"header-img header-img-d\" alt=\"\" style=\"object-fit:cover;object-position:48% 50%\" loading=\"eager\"\/><\/picture><\/div><div class=\"heroPictureCardHeaderShape\"><\/div><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"box\"><div class=\"boxTagWrapper\"><div class=\"tagInfo\"><div><span class=\"box-tag\">Cloud<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"box-title\"><h1 data-maxlength=\"34\">Cloud Realities &#8211; the podcast series<\/h1><\/div><div class=\"inner-row-insight download-btn\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/header>\n\n\n\n<section class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-group undefined section section--article-content\"><div class=\"article-main-content\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row\"><div class=\"col-12 col-md-1\"><nav class=\"article-social\"><ul class=\"social-nav\"><li class=\"ip-order-fb\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer\/sharer.php?u=https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/insights\/research-library\/cloud-realities-podcast\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" title=\"opens in a new window\"><i aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"icon-fb\"><\/i><span class=\"sr-only\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><\/li><li class=\"ip-order-tw\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?url=https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/insights\/research-library\/cloud-realities-podcast\/&amp;text=Cloud%20realities%20podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" title=\"opens in a new window\"><i aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"icon-tw\"><\/i><span class=\"sr-only\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><\/li><li class=\"ip-order-li\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/shareArticle?url=https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/insights\/research-library\/cloud-realities-podcast\/&amp;text=Cloud%20realities%20podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" title=\"opens in a new window\"><i aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"icon-li\"><\/i><span class=\"sr-only\">Linkedin<\/span><\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div><div class=\"col-12 col-md-11 col-lg-10\"><div class=\"article-text article-quote-text\">\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-exploring-both-the-practical-realities-and-the-exciting-alternative-realities-that-can-be-unleashed-through-cloud-driven-transformation-nbsp-and-cloud-native-living-and-nbsp-working\">Exploring both the practical realities and the exciting alternative realities that can be unleashed through cloud-driven transformation&nbsp;and cloud-native living and&nbsp;working.<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>In each episode, our hosts&nbsp;Dave Chapman, Esmee van de Giessen and Rob Kernahan&nbsp;talk to cloud leaders and practitioners to understand how previously untapped business value&nbsp;can be released, how&nbsp;to deal&nbsp;with the challenges&nbsp;and risks that&nbsp;come&nbsp;with&nbsp;bold&nbsp;ventures, and how human experience factors into all of this. 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Please try again.<\/p>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t<script>\n\t\t\twindow.MF_CONFIG508180 = {\"508180\":{\"errors\":{\"_mf_508180_1194\":\"position_level\"},\"redirect\":\"\"}};\n\t\t<\/script>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<section class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-group undefined section section--article-content\"><div class=\"article-main-content\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row\"><div class=\"col-12 col-md-11 col-lg-10 offset-md-1 offset-lg-1\"><div class=\"article-text article-quote-text\">\n<section class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-how-we-do-it section section--howwedoit block-howwedoit\"><div class=\"container\"><div><div class=\"content-title\"><h2 data-maxlength=\"72\" class=\"expandable-heading-tag\">Season 5<\/h2><\/div><p><\/p><\/div><div class=\"section-content\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 172 \u2013 CR115: Power of data in complex industries with Chris Carter, BAE Systems | November 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Digital intelligence is reshaping how organizations work, and success depends on integrating multiple domains, using real-time analytics, and ensuring strong cyber protections as data grows and risks increase<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob talk with Chris Carter, Director &#8211; Key Accounts and Australia at BAE Systems Digital Intelligence, to explore the fast-moving world of digital intelligence, data, and analytics and dive into the complexities of the work, how rapidly the landscape is evolving, and the major challenges organizations face today.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:41 Introduction of Chris Carter<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>03:00 Rob is confused by the idea of renting out brain capacity for compute power<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>07:13 Chris discusses the fusion of data, AI, and human judgment in complex environments<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>34:30 Are we giving enough attention to human cognitive capacity?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>42:34 Rugby tickets with the family<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/chriscarter3\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Chris Carter<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--1\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR115-Power-of-data-in-complex-industries-with-Chris-Carter-BAE-Systems.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--2\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/755TZcVaGE9pgFjf3vEXFG\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\"><strong>Episode 171 \u2013 CRSP07: State of AI 2025 pt.2 &#8211; For the love of data with Indhira Mani, Intact Insurance\u00a0| November 2025<\/strong><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>In this second episode of the special AI mini-series, we now explore the human side of transformation, where technology meets purpose and people remain at the center. From future jobs and critical thinking to working with C-level leaders, how human intervention and high-quality data drive success in an AI-powered world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob talk to Indhira Mani, CDO at Intact Insurance UK, about the Love for data, insights on leadership, resilience, and preparing the next generation for what\u2019s next.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>01:30 Introduction of Indhira Mani and Scotch whisky<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>05:45 Explaining the State of AI mini-series with Craig<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>07:12 Conversation with Indi about her boyfriend called Data<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>38:33 Umbrella Sharing in Japan and the trust on AI<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>45:15 The British Insurance Award and Women in Tech finalist&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/indhira-mani-data\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Indhira Mani<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Co-host:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/craigsuckling\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Craig Suckling<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--3\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR115-For-the-love-of-data-with-Indhira-Mani-RSA-Insurance.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--4\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/0KuN4jGJ7VURQrSSzdNfaC\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\"><strong>Episode 170 \u2013 CR114: Why human experience matters more than ever with Kevin Magee, All human\u00a0| October 2025<\/strong><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Technology can scale almost everything\u2014except human experience.&nbsp;In a world driven by efficiency, what does it mean to design for how people truly feel? It&#8217;s about transforming user interactions into ongoing insight and innovation, rooted in empathy and understanding.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Kevin Magee, Chief Technology Officer at All human about helping organizations transform customer experiences with a focus on design, engineering, and what is called &#8220;digital performance.&#8221;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:41 Introduction of Kevin Magee with Guinness or sparkling water?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>03:23 Rob wonders, is Apple really opening up its ecosystem?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>11:40 Deep dive with Kevin into design, engineering, and digital performance<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>36:30 How tools built for one purpose can transform entire systems<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>48:35 Weekend city breaks and pursuing a master\u2019s in psychology<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/kevinmagee\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Kevin Magee<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--5\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR114-Why-human-experience-matters-more-than-ever-with-Kevin-Magee-Allhuman.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--6\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/6uCWWO12cEt3khLayqQJUZ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 169 \u2013 CR113: Bridging the digital skills gap in a complex world with Mike Nayler, AWS\u00a0| October 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>The skills we teach today will decide the world we live in tomorrow but the digital skills gap is something we&#8217;ve been dealing with for decades, but it\u2019s growing faster than ever, it starts with kids and stretches all the way into late IT careers, and now we&#8217;re finally taking a more connected, lifelong approach to closing it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob speak with Mike Nayler, Director, National Security, Defense &amp; Public Safety at AWS about the digital skills gap and explore how tech companies can help close it.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:45 Introduction of Mike Nayler and the pros and cons of enterprise architects, based on a survey<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>03:30 Rob is confused about AI replacing prompt engineers<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>07:55 Conversation with Mike on the digital skills gap<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>25:15 The real gap is between institutions and the people they aim to serve<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>33:24 Mike heading back to school and writing essays again<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/nayler\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Mike Nayler<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--7\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR113-Bridging-the-digital-skills-gap-in-a-complex-world-with-Mike-Nayler-AWS.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--8\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/4bUvaBQNkHWfi8qaydEHbL\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 168 \u2013 CR112: Evolving role of AI across industries, AI mini-series part 1 [AAA team podcast]\u00a0| October 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>In &#8216;Access All Areas&#8217; shows we go behind the scenes with the crew and their friends as they dive into complex challenges that organisations face\u2014sometimes getting a little messy along the way.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We\u2019re launching a special AI mini-series exploring how artificial intelligence is reshaping industries. Each episode dives into key themes like scaling AI, societal impact, leadership, sustainability, and the challenges ahead. Join us for fresh insights and bold conversations on the future of intelligent systems.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob kick off the AI mini-series with Craig Suckling, CAIO at Capgemini and co-host of this special edition. The episode is inspired by&nbsp;<em>\u201cRiding the AI Whirlwind,\u201d<\/em>&nbsp;Gartner\u2019s 2025 strategic predictions report, which urges organizations to act boldly on AI\u2019s potential while managing risks like rising costs and privacy concerns&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:40 \u2013 Introduction of Craig Suckling and launch of the AI mini-series<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>02:38 \u2013 Summary of three key insights and strategic recommendations from Gartner\u2019s \u201cRiding the AI Whirlwind\u201d report<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>23:03 \u2013 Strategic planning assumptions: what they mean for business and tech leaders<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>41:40 \u2013 Sam Altman\u2019s top three concerns about the future of AI<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>49:35 \u2013 What key topics remain unaddressed?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>51:00 \u2013 What to expect from the AI mini-series featuring industry leaders<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Co-Hosts:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/craigsuckling\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Craig Suckling<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--9\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR112-Evolving-role-of-AI-across-industries-AI-mini-series-part-1-AAA-team-podcast-.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--10\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/021OFgoOwD7hl7a18vZSB7\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 167 \u2013 CR111: From mission-driven to tech-driven with Ben Sparke, Microsoft\u00a0| October 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>The evolving role of technology in modern defense environments, highlighting innovations in communications, automation, and open-source frameworks. Drawing from personal experience, the conversation emphasizes how real-world conflicts are reshaping how tech is deployed, adopted, and understood across military operations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob speak with Ben Sparke, Enterprise Azure Cloud &amp; AI Specialist for UK Defence at Microsoft, about&nbsp; how his military background informs a human-centered approach to technology in the evolving defence sector\u2014highlighting the shift from mission-driven to tech-driven innovation. &nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:37 \u2013 Introduction of Ben Sparke and face-to-face podcasting<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>02:40 \u2013 Rob gets confused about Digital Twins representing you in court<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>08:15 \u2013 Tech\u2019s evolving role in defence, with Ben&nbsp;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>34:41 \u2013 Why improvisation and human adaptability matter&nbsp;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>43:30 \u2013 Ben\u2019s hundred-mile bike race over the weekend<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/ben-sparke\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Ben Sparke<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--11\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR111-From-mission-driven-to-tech-driven-with-Ben-Sparke-Microsoft.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--12\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/4eAcN0JYq2xIjIIPXJ0vy6\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\">Episode 166 \u2013 CR110: The genesis of the virtual assistant with Kevin Surace\u00a0| October 2025<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Before Siri had sass and Alexa started judging your music taste, the original virtual assistant was quietly revolutionizing the &#8217;90s\u2014powered by many patents and a whole lot of foresight. Now, as AI goes from buzzword to boss, we ask, will it transform your job, your home\u2026 or just steal your knowledge?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob speak with&nbsp;<strong>Kevin Surace<\/strong>, Futurist, Inventor &amp; &#8220;Father&#8221; of the Virtual Assistant, about exploring the evolution of AI, what the future might hold, and how disruptive innovation can shake up your organization in ways you might not expect. &nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>&nbsp;00:40 \u2013 Introduction of Kevin Surace<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&nbsp;05:12 \u2013 Rob gets confused by Google Maps reviews and selfies<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&nbsp;08:15 \u2013 Deep dive into the evolution of AI with Kevin<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&nbsp;52:00 \u2013 How intelligent agents can help manage digital noise and support mental well-being<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&nbsp;1:07:30 \u2013 Wrapping up the book the&nbsp;<em>Joy Success Cycle<\/em>&nbsp;and heading to a concert&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Guest:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/ksurace\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Kevin Surace<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--13\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR110-The-genesis-of-the-virtual-assistant-with-Kevin-Surace.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--14\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/23XMkgdNnxLnzJZFw1QAhu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\"><strong>Episode 165 \u2013 CR109: Season 5 Kick Off with Dave, Esmee and Rob\u00a0| September 2025<\/strong><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>We\u2019re back! In this Season 5 premiere, the team reunites after their summer break to kick off an exciting new chapter. Join us as we catch up, share bold predictions for the year ahead, and explore big questions, like whether 2026 will be the year of the autonomous organization. Expect candid reflections, lively discussion, and a sneak peek at what\u2019s coming up this season.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We are very keen this season to establish a feedback loop with listeners, so will be doing shows exploring listener questions and challenges &#8211; something we are really looking forward to.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Please get in touch with us, via LinkedIn, Substack or cloudrealities@capgemini.com, if you have questions or challenges for us, we&#8217;d love to hear from you!<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TLDR:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>&nbsp;00:20 \u2013 We\u2019re back!<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>00:35 \u2013 Catching up on what we did during the summer break<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&nbsp;10:48 \u2013 Planning ahead until Christmas: Microsoft Ignite, AWS re:Invent, an AI mini-series and cool guests<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&nbsp;20:27 \u2013 Tech talk: iPhone 17, deep democracy training, and the human impact of innovation<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&nbsp;32:10 \u2013 Will autonomous organizations powered by agents emerge within 12\u201318 months?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&nbsp;40:45 \u2013 Reflections inspired by Jaws, climbing adventures, and Bruce Springsteen&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--15\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR109-Season-5-Kick-Off-with-Dave-Esmee-and-Rob.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--16\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/7sH0bKfYFWC8xNyrQK7F8i\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-card-howwedoit expanders\"><div class=\"box card-regulated-agreements card-howwedoit\"><div class=\"expander-box filter-box tag-active \"><div class=\"expander-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><h3 class=\"expander-heading-title\"><strong>Episode 164 \u2013 CR108: Season 5 Trailer, The future just dropped\u00a0| September 2025<\/strong><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"expander-content\"><p><\/p><div class=\"bg-color video-align-right\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row video-align-left\"><div class=\"col-md-12\"><div class=\"video-align-left row box box--4 box--mini\"><div class=\"col-md-3\"><\/div><div class=\"col-md-8 box-img-wrapper\"><div class=\"video-box\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>Dave, Esmee, and Rob are strapping in for another season of bold, brain-bending conversations\u2014and they\u2019re bringing the flux capacitor with them from Back to the Future.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Season 5 beams in global leaders and innovators who challenge how we think about technology, business, and humanity. From AI disruption to digital sovereignty, from leadership to culture\u2014this season\u2019s guests are ready to shake things up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Our first full episode drops on September 25, but before we hit 88 miles per hour, here\u2019s a quick trailer to set the timeline straight, or at least bend it a little.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--17\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Branding_Podcast-Transcript_CR108-Season-5-Trailer-The-future-just-dropped.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Episode transcript<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--18\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/1aMxLRBelsc05C9iD10fEb\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen in<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-more\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><\/section>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section>\n\n\n\n<section class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-group undefined section section--article-content\"><div class=\"article-main-content\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row\"><div class=\"col-12 col-md-11 col-lg-10 offset-md-1 offset-lg-1\"><div class=\"article-text article-quote-text\">\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-browse-previous-seasons\">Browse previous seasons<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-season-4\">Season 4<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-september-2024-august-2025\">September 2024 &#8211; August 2025<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" 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href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/insights\/research-library\/cloud-realities-season-3-2\/\">Listen here<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-season-3-part-1\">Season 3 (part 1)<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-september-december-2023\">September &#8211; December 2023<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--21\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/insights\/research-library\/cloud-realities-season-3\/\">Listen here<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:25px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex 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December 2022<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--23\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capgemini.com\/insights\/research-library\/cloud-realities-season-1\/\">Listen  here<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section>\n\n\n<section class=\"section section--expert-perspectives\"><div class=\"container\"><div class=\"row\"><div class=\"content-title col-12 col-md-8\"><h2 class=\"expert-heading\">Expert perspectives<\/h2><\/div><\/div><div class=\"expert-prospective-container\"><div class=\"row\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section>\n\n\n<section class=\"wp-block-cg-blocks-group undefined section 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